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I think as CC4L has said, the arm is round the back of Haynes, so the TV angle would not be a very good angle at all in that circumstance.

Think it was that, combined with the fans waiting for the team to really turn it on, which didn't happen. Think a fair few fans thought the team would win the game for Jimmy, or at least go hell for leather to attempt to do so. Had we scored in the first minute, which we most certainly should...

But if he wasn't, it's the most ludicrous, ridiculous, feeble attempt at stopping the ball ever. It's hard to see on the clip, but you have to come to the conclusion that he had to have been held back, otherwise it was truly dreadful keeping. He only goes for the ball with one arm, so his...

But I'm not saying that. I am saying the game changed when he went off. Can be just as easily be argued that's because we had to re-jig things. Had we had another centre back on the bench it might not have made the difference. Bringing Haynes on weakened the team. I am merely syaing the game...

If you care to check the video back you will see you are wrong. We were at 6's and 7's the moment Turner went off and Oldham were suddenly playing much higher up the field and in our half. CWR confirmed this in the commentary too (Eakin and Jorgensen). No doubt you'll say they don't know what...

Please tell me where I said Turner being injured made a difference offensively? :thinking about: If you care to watch the tape of the game back you will see the minute Turner went off Oldham became a lot more attacking in their approach. It happened immediately the moment Turner went off.

Very, very costly that. I am convinced that had we scored that in the very first minute, then the crowd would have been a lot more vocal and supportive and the confidence would have flowed and we may well have won the match easily.

Totally disagree. Oldham were closing us down high up the pitch at every opportunity and we RCC was having to play the ball long as a result. We were simply unable to play the ball out from the back. The long ball then kept coming back with Oldham in possession because we had no-one to win the...

The cracks ARE beginning to show. A few weeks back TM could do no wrong and now all of a sudden, according to fans he's apparently making lots of 'mistakes.'

Not at all (if Lorentzson is all he seems he is), but then cover is the worry.

Be a lot more worried if we had put that performance in with Turner, Fleck and Ricketts in the side. As 'i said before, losing Turner today made a masisve difference.

As I said on the other thread, Oldham in the second half suddenly started pressuring us much higher up the pitch and kept closing us down. This then meant we couldn't play the ball out from the back and RCC had to resort to kicking it long. We did that and the ball kept coming back to us, so TM...

Would have preferred Murphy to Kent today for sure.

He is. As well as all his skill, pace and goal-prowess, he also works really hard too, which then leads to defensive errors from the opposition. Murhpy is a lot more hit and miss.

You're forgetting the great chance Armstrong had in the first minute, stu.

Then they were truly at a different game.

We had no more defensive cover on the bench Nick. Only Kelly-Evans, who you would have to assume is not ready for first team football.

Don't think we should overreact here. People are talking about cracks, but last week we should have won that game and there was no way we deserved to lose. Key decisions went against us. Today we were seconds from victory and TM has said RCC was clearly fouled. Would people be talking of...

Totally agree.

And so too had Kent passed instead of taking that shot in the first half that went wide of the post. We had 2 players in the box waiting for the ball in.