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What? Of course it will matter if we move to a small town near Coventry. That is my point. We will have no choice if SISU don't alter their stance. That will be the end of all our ambitions. It doesn't matter if it is Wasps or anyone else. Sooner or later the Ricoh will be taken. That is the...

I am not talking about morals or even Wasps in particular. The problem is not Wasps. It is SISU. They are the owners. They make the decisions - not Wasps or anyone else. If the stadium goes to Wasps through 90% of ACL, it is SISU's fault 100%. Don't blame ACL or Wasps. In our case we did not...

It doesn't matter what Wasps were called or where they were 12 years ago. What matters is that there is an empty stadium in Cov ( yes, I know there is a tenant for 23 days a year for 2 years and an option for another 2 years - but that is nothing in the real world ). The ball is in SISU's...

Yes, but the council have never said anything other than the door is aiways open... CCFC need a home ground and ACL has one in the city with the same name as the football club. No-one needs to tell SISU this. They are well aware of what they could have.... but they are still sticking to the same...

ACL's job is to rent out a stadium complex.CCFC/ SISU's job is to acheive sporting success in the football world. ACL seem to be getting better at their job, and CCFC are mid-table in the third division. Our complaints should be directed at the people not doing their job, not the ones getting...

No, but maybe they were planning on playing in Coventry though - and it makes it easier when they discard their commitment to London.

Yes, I hope so. What do your mates in the canteen know? Any news from them lately?

Yes, that is the only way out. The lease can have safeguards written into it and in the end the freehold remains in the hands of the council - who can't sell it and do a runner. The council can afford to give CCFC a good deal - so long as they get the mortgage repaid and the area benefits from...

The people dicking around are the ones who spend more time and money in court than on running a football club which they own. If they would say "we are CCFC, the stadium was built for us, we are here to stay long term.... Sell us a long-term lease on very favourable terms and we will make this...

This is what it is about.... because if SISU built a stadium with another subsidiary, as they have confirmed through TF, we would be paying them rent. We would not own the stadium, a SISU company would. The best landlords would in fact be CCC, because love them or hate them, they are accountable...

yes, but.... they have been welcomed back for 2 years with an option of a further 2 years... That is not the end of the story by a long chalk. The end will be when SISU/Otium/CCFC and ACL/CCC/Higgs put pen to paper on a long term leasehold agreement at a "reasonable" rent ( one both sides can...

Where does the 2m come in? as I am sure that was what offered in the end? ( especially as the deal was to be 5,5m - if she was happy to donate 5,5m why didn't she?

They recinded on the deal for 5,5m and said the share was worthless. Then offered 2m because Joy realised that Higgs was a charity. That is not "half hearted", that is taking the proverbial and deserved a robust rebuke at least.

They (ACL) have used the revenue to repay the mortgage. If the revenue increases, they can repay the mortgage quicker or maybe take something out. Apart from that, part ownership of ACL gives a share in the decision making and an interest to bring in more business. 100% ownership of the...

Which is why they want out and would have accepted 5,5m therefore taking a loss. Instead they were told their share is worthless, but Joy offered them 2m because they are a charity. What other answer than F.O. should Joy have expected?

I agree that the P.i.T.S. Stadium will never be built. TF continues to talk about it though, and it is this posturing that is causing speculation about the future of the Ricoh. I also think that Wasps will only use the Ricoh for European games and I would be in favour of that. The pitch side...

Beggar's can't be choosers. Our deal at the moment is temporary - max. 4years. No security of tenure beyond that. The official position is that we are building a smaller stadium than the Ricoh in a small town or village somewhere near to Coventry. We are never going to get out of League 1 or 2...

Theoretically "we", but would we stick to the new stadium line and the JR appeal as CCFC are doing? It is one thing to align with the team CCFC, but another to align with the current policy of the owners. I just hope that one day we are all on the same wavelength.

The question is more about CCFC's stance, that they are definitely building a new stadium. Not interested in ACL particularly. CCFC have said they are going. Ok. I am against it, but so long as that is the final word, you can't blame ACL. I hope it is a bluff ( like the stadium ). They, CCFC...

In answer to ccfc4life. Have we finally returned? Last I Heard, the New Stadium was definatelx going ahead. Site to be announced soon.