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And I was referencing the fact you are only expressing the sympathy as it’s a country that’s been invaded by a country that geopolitically is seen as a threat to us - otherwise you wouldn’t care at all

And no doubt still voted for the man who supported the invasion

You really are a bit strange aren’t you?

Plenty of countries have been invaded since world war 2 - how many have seen the uk citizens with their flags and silly face painting and love and support? Vietnam?

Some more reasoned arguments on this thread now - makes it at least a thread worth revisiting again.

You look at the media coverage of the game and it’s all pretty strange - the brave Ukrainians, a nation with so much more to think about but bravely drew against England. The reality is we as a nation have always been geopolitically opposed to Russia and view them as a threat. It’s purely...

Yes he and his brother were - they were both abandoned into a care home and the parents went through a lengthy adoption process to get them to the Netherlands.

He sees himself as Dutch

Well done to Coco Gauff - great performance and a great speech afterwards - what a star she’s going to be

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/ukraine-un-experts-concerned-reports-discrimination-against-people-african https://amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/mar/22/i-will-not-be-held-prisoner-the-trans-women-turned-back-at-ukraines-borders

Bit harsh - we have the Coventry Bible

Duck?

the advice is to leave it open anyway so the heat rises but I’ve never really seen it make a lot of difference

Well as a country it’s human rights record isn’t great regarding race and homosexuality for a start. They aren’t exactly a bunch of Liberal Democrats in reality and not a country normally we’d have any affinity to and would rather distance ourselves from them I’d have thought

No but this essentially is a football forum and someone spending 95% of their time on other subjects - and hugely contradicting their previous stance - is pretty odd.

Really?

I don’t think it’s in Basildon

He signed from West Ham during a season he was not released but a free transfer

You seem somewhat unhinged Tony - I do think the therapists chair beckons - perhaps you should say hello and wave goodbye for a while?

Are they the same people you voted for Tony?