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Oh great. When do we start? I read it that they looked at it. Discussed it. Then signed an extension of a cheap deal at the Ricoh - thus giving Anderson time to weigh up all options, whilst having a stadium big enough for a possible promotion.

So, we will have a better idea of how much the naming rights are worth with CCFC if they are extended to fit with the 2 year Extension. Les Said that the plan was to build on the Butts site....what happened to that exklusive revelation btw ?

what's your dentist's name? ;-)

I would guess that we have a decent budget for this league, otherwise TM would not be here. I also think that we have been rumbled now. The season has been going on long enough for people to assess us especially as we were getting noticed when we were top. Teams like Sheffield and Oldham are not...

The Butts not Barker Butts.

RIP and thanks for getting us to the First Division. Great for CCFC and for Coventry.

I'll go for a bit under 17000 as well. It won't be long though before we get gates like this on a regular basis - if we can slam our way through the Christmas period.

I hereby acknowledge that I do not know the terms of the lease of 250 years agreed with Wasps. Furthermore I hereby confirm that I have never claimed to have known the terms of the said lease. Now, back to my point. Was the lease to be unencumbered or not? Was it just " we would consider a lease "?

The important word being "unencumbered".

I'd accept an unencumbered draw.

No, he means the one that ML says is not a dodgy hedge fund. ( In private conversation which means it must be believed ).

In my experience in dealing with councils, the only thing that counts is a formal application in a form that complies with the council regulations. It must be clear and concise what is requested and what is offered. "Leaks" and titbits of information were common to both sides. the main reason...

Distorting the market- screwed their plan to distress ACL. Total miscalculation is most accurate.

Joy has remained constant throughout. Unencumbered and litigation.

Grendel is contradicting Les Reid whenever he can - without knowing it.

ACL through their 50% shareholder obviously did have the power to pay the mortgage and sit it out. Which is why SISU are squealing JR. They obviously were of the same opinion as you. The game changer was the loan. Hence the miscalculation and subsequent disaster.

Back to Grendel facts...... Where are the posts which I supposedly made? Where is the letter where Joy drops unencumbered? Which is the question that you answered?

Ccc paid off the mortgage at the YB. ACL then had to pay the council back. Wasps bought ACL and ACL paid the loan back to the council.

I thought Mutton said they had enough reserves to fund the loan at the beginning. The loan has been paid back. The council is owed nothing. What Wasps do with their bonds and investors is not relevant to the council. All joint stock companies are funded by shareholders, if they buy something...

Did Wasps investors pay the Yorkshire Bank off? I thought the council paid it off and Wasps paid the council off. Don't know who bought Wasps' bonds - not interested in Wasps. My passion would have been apparent if you had have been in my Pub in Kiel on Sunday during the game, but you were...