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As far as LR is concerned...... he is fighting his war...and it seems his information was at least in part correct, which is why RobS came to his defence and pointed out that TF was angry. Therefore Les was not just towing the party line...The Rugby chap was doing the denying - now we know why...

It would be difficult to do it today - after it has just been announced by the Rugby chap. It was easier to slip it in under the radar in January. I can understand the motives though - the JR1 was still not decided and the JR 2 is still to come. A bit of ammunition for CCC to have in this futile...

It is honest reporting, but it allowed the council to get in quick and discreet before the latest announcement. Not sure that helps progress. The Butts is a long way from being our new home. By the way, have you Said how and when I mocked the Rugby chap? I cannot recall that....

It looks like an attempt to defraud the Bank by allowing their security to go under and then carrying on as if nothing had happened. No idea if that is illegal or not, but I am sure the bank and it's shareholders would not be happy writing off a few million.

Apparently not. RobS said at the time that TF was fuming that Les had reported it. No doubt TF agrees that it is not always clever to report confidentual talks in the newspapers. The council block was based " upon reports " last year. TF was not happy, neither were the council.

Did they mention the stadium rental? No, I thought not. So how do you know it will be better than the current arrangements?

For a Rugby Club...not for a team that could become a Championship team within 1 season... And maybe one day a premiership team. If we were in the Championship with a 15000 joint stadium, we would be already discussing building a new Arena 2030 with at least 30000 capacity in the hope of...

You are dead right. Of course, money talks. The Investment would be have to be huge - digging downwards, building upwards,maybe bridging the road and all dependant on residents agreeing/ acceptong and the people you have been battling with in court for years providing better traffic links.

Because of the effect on the area. A lot of people live there. Up til now CCC only know/ knew what CRFC had planned. A second or even third adds to noise, traffic etc. nothing will or can Happen without further details. That is normal in a democracy - as you like to point out ( when it suits ).

Exactly....

They are entitled to go fishing. Any block would ultimately have to be approved and for that to Happen more details would have to come from CRFC and CCFC. In view of the ongoing JRs which cost the council time and money thus delaying other city projects, I have no sympathy for SISU experiencing...

One positive about the Butts... The Rumaniens on the carpark do a good hand car wash for 7 quid....

Tony is merely pointing out considerations that must be taken into account. Stop dreaming that Santa is coming with a new toy ( stadium in this case ). Santa doesn't exist and if a Stadium does come it will be financed by investors not ST holders - we are having enough trouble trying to be self...

I know, but if SISU propco build a new one we may be going from the frying pan into the fire. There are no guarantees - either way.

The amount of money the club gets from a New Stadium is dependant on the deal with the stadium owners ( propco ) and whatever facilities come with the stadium. The propco investors want a return on their money. The Butts doesn't have much space for facilities. So, you don't have a clue whether...

I am assuming in this case scenario that the Rugby Club go it alone.

I am not presuming the rent stays low and assume that we need some control of a stadium long Term. If CRFC do get a 15000 stadium built, it would be an alternative to be used as a 'Northampton' style exit to force a deal with Wasps. Long term though we need something bigger than 15000.

If SISU and the Rugby Club have a plan they have to present it to CCC. They can hardly ask for the outcome to be decided against them dropping the JR. JR2 doesn't look good for them anyway.

No-one can say drop the action and you will get whatever you want. SISU are the ones pursuing the JR. The CCC block is a show of force that they too can be cunts. The CCC don't need to talk to SISU. It's up to SISU to come to CCC as they are the local authority and the freeholders. If SISU