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Yep. 0-0. Better to keep two clubs in reach (or just behind) rather than have one gaining points over us.

Is that maybe a tad too optimistic?

Didn't they use the whole sample and that was the problem? They should have done the test again but couldn't because it was contaminated?

You think? Are they allowed to do stuff like that? I'm shocked. Got any video of David Bell?

Yep, rings a bell, but I'm not totally sure. There's certainly enough there for the conviction to be unsafe. Fair play to Avery though for studying law in prison and going through all the case files trying to prove his innocence. When the weight of the law and closed ranks are against you...

Ooh, get you with your iPad .... AND your Kindle!! Different tablet for every day of the week have we? ;)

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-thought-brothers-framed-him-20160106 This is quite interesting. Apparently the accused's brother had sexually assaulted women who had visited the salvage yard before. As has already been mentioned, this isn't the best family in...

Oh yes of course. How could that be? She had the car for 5 years and obviously had used the key for 5 years, but there wasn't even one single speck of her DNA on the key anywhere to be found. That is surely impossible and points to the key being scrubbed clean by someone. There's also the...

So just Ellery then.

Please show me one place anywhere where I have said everything is fine and dandy. Yep, thought not. I know everything isn't great and have said so many times before.

Dick Van Dyke anyone? Chim chiminey, chim chiminey, chim, chim to roo, we hate those bastards in claret and blue!

Yep and never explained. Someone wanted his blood and you would have to think that only police officials would have access. So many doubts in this case. The number plate thing, the vial of blood, the car left on the yard despite Avery having a crusher on site which could have destroyed the...

No thanks, I've just eaten.

Yep, you've just described Ryan Kent. Now can you tell us a bit about this Hooi fella.

Bassett? Mike or Bertie?

No, that's just the WUM's on that other thread.

He also thinks he can go back home if he says what they want him to say and go back to school the next day. He is definitely coerced. There was one simple way to prove to the cops of his making stuff up and that was to give him misinformation, rather than hint at what happened to the victim...

Was just going to add, that even people who defend Coventry are hardly going to defend West Orchards, which is a pretty poor shopping mall. I tend to only go in HMV and Marks and Spencer's and both of those you can access without even setting foot in the mall at all. Wouldn't compare West...

Yep, the treatment of the kid is most worrying. He clearly doesn't understand the questioning and struggles with the concepts and consequences. He keeps being interviewed without representation too.

Not going to argue with you as it is pointless. Statistics can tell you many things. Victoria Centre has 65 retail outlets and West Orchards 40. How can you just base how busy a city is on one shopping mall within each city is beyond me. I am in the town centre all the time and very rarely go...