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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Is there always organic growth? We are an aging population without migration.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. The point is we need a second chamber to check what comes out of the commons. Maybe a percentage of nominees and the rest elected on a proportional system- thus allowing smaller groups at least some representation. Lots of better permutations than we have now.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Mess around...??? Critically examine it you mean. This is the job of any second chamber, which in fact justifies it's existence.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. People actually voted for people/ MEPs like Farage. I think you mean the European Commission whose members are nominated by elected representatives. I think the Lords is far less democratic than these European institutions.
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    Time for Tim Fisher to go

    Does Joy give a toss that we are going down? No. So long as she is no longer having to pay in, all is rosy. His task is to turn the business round. That is what he claims to do. The club is no longer making huge losses - in comparison to when he came. He is doing his job. Do I like it? No...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The article 50 debacle shows the need for a second chamber. The present system does need rethinking though.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. There are many things wrong Britain. The racists blame everything on the EU migrants and therefore the EU. All of these gladly voted leave. You are playing the victim if you think all leave voters are automatically classed in this group by people like myself.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Refugees are coming from Syria because there is a war on. They may end up with better living conditions in the long term, but may have to live in a camp for years in the meantime. They were not flooding into Europe before the destruction of Syria and so are not economic migrants. They are not...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Which countries and how many black or migration background people vote for them? How much is a 'a lot' as a percentage?
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    Time for Tim Fisher to go

    Tim Fisher is doing a great job. From SISU's point of view. We will probably get away with a small loss, thanks to Wembley, or, if we get some decent money for Stevenson, even a small profit at the end of 2017. We have no long term financial commitments, and if we can pull a deal off for Ryton...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Refugees are not immigrants in the sense of people like myself moving from England to Germany. A refugee crisis is harder to control. We need to be more proactive in helping countries at risk. It costs money, but the collapse of previously stable countries like Syria costs us more in the end. I...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    These 'economic migrants' only appeared after their country was destroyed by war. Before that Syria was a stable country and not one of the poorest. These 'economic migrants' have risked their lives and/ walked for miles between getting lifts in dangerous and uncomfortable circumstances...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How does that work with refugees? 19 points if you have been raped? 21 points if you have lost your home?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ? He is saying that they should take an anti immigration stance. He will claim he wants a points system etc., but at the end of the day he wants to restrict immigration. The next call will be voluntary repatriation.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It doesn't.... but right wing sites imply that it does and that people are saying that you are a fascist ..
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As Sick Boy says, that is typically Breitbart victim talk. The Trump supporters would also say that. Why don't you just say, of course there will be a percentage of criminals? There is amongst all populations. You may be a Nazi etc., or you may not be, but you shouldn't be accused of that just...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. Take getting on for a million people and you will find some criminals. Statistically, the Syrians are no worse than the Germans. Do you think there are no criminals amongst the refugees?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are also arguing amongst themselves- even threatening to kill each other ( that was Petry's husband trying to stifle a challenger within the party ). Often the case with extreme right parties. The split between Tyndall and Colin Jordan or Tyndall and Kingsley Reid. Marine Le Pen and her...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The same reason people here commit crimes. I wouldn't do it, neither would you. There again we are not criminals.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Farage has said Nuttall missed the main issue which is immigration. He said UKIP must be harder on immigration. I didn't say that, Farage did.
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