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    Actual Nazis in America

    One of those groups admires the Nazi state, organised a Nazi rally and killed someone. Yet you are on about the group that stood up to the Nazis and want them classed as equivalent to Nazis which most probably weren't.
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    Actual Nazis in America

    Standing up to Nazis. Then you come out with a list of murderous Marxists. Standing up to oppressive ideology includes standing up to Marxism. Are you claiming all counter protesters were "they"?
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    Actual Nazis in America

    You just proved his point.
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    Actual Nazis in America

    The demonstration was a show of force by the Nazis. The Nazi paroles, the torch lit march, the beating of a black man and the killing of a counter protester were the things for the president to unequivocally condemn. He refused and brought other people- including non antifa extremists- into the...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    If he emboldens the far right, then it is his fault- even if he did not mean it. It shows how incapable he is. He acts on impulse - which maybe ok for an estate agent/ property speculator, but is not ok for the leader of 325 million people.
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    Actual Nazis in America

    Did the president of the USA say that many sides were responsible for the killings at the time?
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    Actual Nazis in America

    She did beat him in th the popular vote. 3 million votes. There is evidence of Russian support with fake news in social media especially in swing states. All of the US intelligence services agree on that. Collusion is what has not yet been proven. Saudi is a deflection. We are talking about...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    Where have I defended any on this list? Apart from most Americans thinking Trump handled it wrongly by saying ' many sides', Donald Trump himself indirectly admitted his statement was wrong in that, when he requoted it at his Parteirallye in Phönix, he did not requote ' many sides ' which is the...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    No, they are not saints, but they didn't organize the torch light rally to chant hate slogans and they didn't kill anybody. So the bunch of cunts in this case are the Nazis. Trump should have stuck to that.
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    Actual Nazis in America

    Socialists are not holding torch lit rallies chanting violent slogans. The Nazis were at Charlottesville. That's the point. Trump owns a house there, so he knows the facts. Haha.
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    Actual Nazis in America

    It isn't just the media. It is people like Romney and Ryan. The republican leaders. This is not what people expect of the president of the United States. The US fought against Nazism. People chanting 'whose streets.. our streets' are clearly referring to how the SA won the battle for the...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    It was a Nazi demonstration. It should have been condemned without putting counter protests into the frame. The point you are making is that protesting Nazis is as bad as taking part in a Nazi demonstration armed to the teeth shouting Nazi slogans. It isn't.
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    Actual Nazis in America

    My mates? Clueless? Look in a mirror regarding cluelessness. The Nazis suppressed free speech. Even if these Nazi clowns are in a minority, they stand for suppression of free speech. You don't get it do you? The demonstration was a demonstration as a show of Nazi ideals. If you take the line...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    He wasn't elected fairly- he had help from Putin - and he didn't win the popular vote. Hillary won the popular vote by more votes than your democratic Brexit vote. So get over it. Whether the media hates Trumo or not, he is proving to be incapable of being a president. The criticism comes from...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    They have been encouraged by Breitbart. They have been emboldened by Trump. They are in the news because of a torchlight rally which resulted in a death. All publicity is good publicity as far as they are concerned. If Trump had condemned them without mentioning 'many sides' and claiming that...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    Which argument have I lost? Trump was wrong to seek to spread the blame out. It was a Nazi demonstration which resulted in beatings and a death caused by a Nazi supporter. Such demonstrations have no place in a democracy and should be unequivocally condemned- especially when they result in...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    The swastika itself is not the problem- see the grave of the bishop in the old cathedral. The bishop is wearing a robe ordained with swastikas. Hitler took the symbol and turned it round. It is the use of the reversed swastika by the people using it to symbolize an anti Semitic racist movement...
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    Actual Nazis in America

    The statue is not the real problem. Just a convenient excuse. They, the Nazis, were there to make a show of force and encourage others to come out and express their nazi opinions. Nazism is the contrary to free speech and tolerance. Trump should have slammed into them... but he put them on an...
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    Telegraph

    Doesn't show how much is generated by CCFC and the SISU disaster.... I would think that alone accounts for some proportion of interest generated..
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well yes. You are admitting that you and everyone else has no idea what was going to happen with important questions when you voted. Martcov and Sickboy are not on the Brexit Committee because they ask too many questions and want answers from experts- not "out is out", Brexit means Brexit. The...
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