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Jogi Lowe didn't exactly have a brilliant club career and he did alright. A lot of countries actually do well bringing managers through their youth setups as it's different from club football.

Was Germany in the quarters not a major game, was our first semi final win in 50 years not a major game. Nobody gives a shit about the nations league.

The same France that have drawn twice to Ukraine and once to Bosnia in their qualifying group. The same Belgium that piss their qualifying groups and piss their pants at tournaments. We need to get over this obsession of minor games. If he gets to the WC then he's done the job.

Going from losing to a country smaller than Cov to a WC semi and Euro final. It'll do for me, only one more step to go.

Would obviously rather we won but still of the mindset where I don't give a shit so long as we qualify. Then if we qualify don't care if we're patchy in the group so long as we get out of that. All about getting deep into the tournament.

They've got Moldova and unbeaten Denmark left Israel 3 points behind have Austria and Faores.

Are they? Can't finish top of their group so if they get 2nd, which looks likely, then they will have to go through a playoff.

All the modes are boring and they put minimal effort into them. Like players on loan in lower leagues are just on contract now if you play career mode. If you play a player career nobody puts an offer in for you unless you put in a transfer request. FUT is all they care about because idiots pay...

Why has the Hungary shirt got two of the same badge on it, just one is colourful and one is round?

Some nonsense in the politics thread

Get Kane off and just put all of our attacking midfielders on running directly sat them

So you all support the violence by Russians at France 2016 then? Interesting.

Who pissed in this ref's paella

I know I've seen that already, I wan't to know why it's a press release from the FA but not the actual rule book.

One in every 10 games you have to play with the old leather ball though

Can we create a XPL (extreme premier league) where they have to play like it's the 70s

Who knows. The rules say nothing about a penalty but the clarifications to the rules do so I think it just depends how pissed off Marco Silva is.

Spotty racist prick (not astute)

Ironic that Wasps are unhappy about the use of Native American imagery but are happy to take others' land