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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Im not saying anyones guilty, just it wasn’t a clear cut decision at the time
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    look what happened after it was released
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    September circuit break - see welsh circuit break. Totally ineffective. London tier 2 - see previous article I attached on other thread (rates falling and below average). From memory it spread from Kent into London very quickly. Burnham wanted Manc in T2 even though same numbers as London. Sadiq...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Read what I’ve said, I’m with you on some of those things being investigated. Things change though. Regarding closing borders do watch the documentary and read the SAGE minutes. It was advised against (as was stopping large outdoor gatherings)...they felt it was basically too late. The decision...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Agreed. But you can be clear decisive and wrong. The whole thing (certainly in the western world) is a massive balancing act ps the communication in terms of info/data made available is pretty impressive. The clarity of messaging of that information and strategy has been very poor ! Anway -...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The point is people can’t have it both ways Clint. Like I mentioned the other day you had James O’Brien comparing us to the world on various data in one breath and then refusing to compare our vaccination roll out on ‘companionate’ reasons in another (wrong to compare as we should want the world...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Agree with this 100%. I would also suggest the same is done with per capita deaths etc. I’ve said all along that the only way to properly review/judge this is once it’s over (hopefully it will be soon !) yet people want to pick apart every action and decision ‘live’ etc when we know this fucking...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    100% NW ! Little fanfare about it today but read that we’ve offered to assist with other countries genomics to help them spot new variants (helps us as well but by helping the wider world) Whilst we may have made a mess with some of the decisions taken to better protect the country, in relation...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Its not as straight forward as that though. The EU was slow to order and slower to sign off/authorise the vaccines. It appears they are upset that some AZ vaccines they feel shouldve been earmarked for the EU have been delivered to the UK. The fact is the EU haven’t signed off the AZ vaccine...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Yeah, that’s why I wouldn’t be surprised if they started focussing on second jabs sooner, certainly before roll out to under 60s.
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Agree there was strangely some reticence to start with (doesn’t make sense why as it’s out of the governments hands) but also they hadn’t got the centres fully up and running Heard both Johnson and Whitty last week and Hancock last night suggest supply would be the main issue with roll out...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    haha, sure he’s supportive ! All the best with the venture mate
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    They have been to be fair Clint. Over the past couple of weeks (after majority of the network of vaccinations of centres were set up) they’ve kept saying we’re set up to do as many as supplies will allow us to. There is also a fine balance though...slatting the companies that potentially have...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    BSB is right, need to get the jabs done and stay calm. The government need everyone to stick to the rules for probably another couple of months...if they come out and start shouting everything’s great ‘we’ve beaten Covid’, I think we know what would happen (a chunk of the public will start...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Nick will be wanting commission at this rate !
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    It’s the timing of production and delivery though DOD. We signed off on 30 Dec, then it took two weeks to ramp up U.K. production. EU still haven’t signed off yet expect first quarter production to be as initially advised (same as the nosies we were making about our supply immediately after sign...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Can’t disagree. Israel report wasnt full data yet either though, presume that’s where annoyance came from
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Yeah, depends which report you read I guess. I was going from that Politico article I attached. ps EUs behaviour pretty poor on this. They haven’t even signed off on AZ vaccine yet don’t appear to be happy for supplies to be going to countries who have signed it off. Think their main current...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Whitty rubbished that report in the guardian/Israel report about Pfizer (hope he’s right !) edit -https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/chris-whitty-s-fury-at-guardian-s-total-nonsense-pfizer-claim/ar-BB1d2a0K?ocid=ob-fb-engb-667
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Bigger current issue, for time being at least anyway (diplomatic and vaccine related) is DODs article above about EU threatening to block vaccine supplies to other countries
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