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Stoke, Norwich, West Brom all have plans to expand. Swansea's stadium has the ability to expand to 40,000.

We have been crap and not successful. Being successful will make one hell of a difference. Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk

So if it doesn't really matter why are all the big clubs expanding their stadiums? (Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal,Man City, Spurs, West Ham etc.) Surely they should just stay as they are.

But it's not one or two games if you are successful. It's only one or two games a season for us because we've either been crap, or have buggered it up. Us winning, at the top, bigger crowds for more games. We go to the Championship and start competing for the top 6 there we will get several...

Well yeah, but then also 'if' and 'hypothetically' 25,000. :)

Think the last time I went to a pub the City were still in the top flight and had just won the cup.

My daughter's best friend's dad is an ardent Cov fan and he was saying they were indeed expected to be right up there challenging for promotion, so the season was a big disappointment.

Are the pies going to be smaller there too?

Would people agree it would have to be expandable to 25,000 to be anything like a goer? 15,000 in the Championship would leave us one of the poorer boys in terms of comparable success for revenue. 25,000 would be fine for the Championship, but wouldn't be good enough for us to make any real...

Yep. Went in the West End and the Kop and the sound just didn't reverberate around the stadium well at all. There were also restricted views in the West Stand and M&B Stand too.

I see you are not the only one with predictive text problems. I had Sturbridge come up too.

Agree. I love the Ricoh so much more than I ever did HR. HR was a below average stadium.

Yep, agree. Word is here though that it will be considerably less than 25,000. And if it were to be 15,000 that would be the third lowest capacity in the division.

But as I say, NOW the trend is to expand. Wasn't back then for the majority of clubs.

But the whole point of my listing these is because they are nearly all expanding I would say it is irrelevant going back 25 years because clubs then had smaller capacities than they do now in many cases. My whole argument is that surely we want to be looking for a stadium to cater for us for...

Because obviously if we have real success it won't be enough. It won't be anywhere near enough to compete at a high enough level. 15,000 will see us to the Championship, but then we would struggle to make any dent on that. So many clubs are expanding. We need much bigger than 15,000. To me...

Capacities: Just a few here. Can't be arsed to go through a whole stack of them, but ..... Arsenal - 60,000 Villa - plans to increase to 50,000 Chelsea - plans to increase to 60,000 Palace - 26,000 Everton - 40,000 Leicester - plans to increase to 42,000 Liverpool - 58,000 Man City -...

I dare say the ring road would grind to a halt around that junction. They would seriously need to look at new roads in otherwise it would be a gridlock disaster.

But if you read what has been said here they are talking about considerably less than 25,000. That sounds to me like it may be much nearer to 15,000 than to 25,000.

I am happy to move to the Butts, but am greatly worried about the capacity available. They say it could be expanded as much as 25,000, but that in reality it will be much lower in order to incorporate the other things needed. As has been said by many posters on many occasions, we will get well...