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Its a complete nothing of a response that ignores the entirety of the rest of his career, the 2 seasons following that season included, the fact we looked to replace him straight after that season and the fact loads of shite players have finished in the top 6 over years which doesn't mean we...

Save ourselves a few quid if him and Andrews are getting to the level. Maybe Obikwu too?

Yeh not sure why people are struggling with this.

That's who plays if your number 1 gets injured in the season. If you have the knowledge in the summer your number 1 is out for months and you can go and do something about it then you do, to give yourself the best chance.

Morning Ben.

Can you imagine any other team that genuinely fancies themselves for top 6 being happy starting the season with Ben fucking Wilson in goal?

My worst was sticking up for Simms for such a long time. I can't explain how done I am watching that guy right now.

No, your point makes no sense. Its rubbish I'm afraid.

I don't think so, it's the kind of loan Lampard was attracting when at Derby.

It shouldn't. I don't understand your point, why should people give you names to make the point neither of the keepers are good enough? I can't imagine it's too difficult to find a few names of realistic keepers better than Clown A and Clown B to be honest.

What are we arguing about then? The discussion is whether Frank will go for another because Wilson and Collins aren't very good. My opinion is he will. It seems you agree so how you've managed to make an argument out of it I'm not sure.

I didn't actually realise how strong the Wilson fan club still was. The fanbase sure does love a 'character' that's not very good.

Well yeh fans are allowed an opinion on a player they've watched for 5 years ffs, what's that got to do with anything? I would say your average fan could tell the difference between a good keeper and a poor one but i am starting to worry on that front.

Shall we talk about every other season in his career?

Eh?

The same rubbish argument is made every time someone suggests an upgrade is required in any given position. It's really not up to fans to figure out the 'who?' If the recruitment department couldn't find anyone better than Wilson and Collins either on loan or on a free I'd be staggered.

The thing is, Collins was so wank it's glazed over Wilson. Poor stats last season, poor stats the season before that too and a career mainly as a lower league backup. I don't see him as an acceptable option for a team looking to challenge at the top of the Championship.

I'm sure clubs will be queueing up to take the 'best in the league' for the peanuts he would be available for then. The blindness some of this fanbase has for Wilson is wild to me. He's so poor and if we go into the season with him starting something has gone wrong.

I agree, I think we need to prepare as if he's going to be out for the season. Anything could happen with that kind of injury. We can't just 'make do' and end up writing off the season.

Right, except we know our keeper is out for some time with an ACL and we are at a stage in the season (before it) where we have an opportunity to do something about it. It would be negligent not to.