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    Are SISU bad owners?

    The council were hostile from the beginning - we had access to buy 50% for a formula price for a 45 year lease. They also quoted us 26 million for F&B - ludicrous price. The council half was never up for sale to us.
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    Are SISU bad owners?

    I was being sarcastic - like you said the transfer fees are being recycled. It’s a good way of working
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    Bury gone

    No I’m not saying it’s necessary - I’m saying that the model does give teams that wouldn’t challenge on commercial income the chance to dream. Man City have spent over a billion but they’ve built a brand new infrastructure. In future they won’t need the investment. The money has been spent...
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    Are SISU bad owners?

    Depends who you talk to... SISU are spending the transfer money on legal fees. The money has to be coming from somewhere
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    Picking the Carcass of Bury

    Bolton’s notice was originally suspended as was Bury’s - the notice period is 14 days Think Bolton were further down the line with the takeover than Bury were.
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    Bury gone

    I’m sure debt owed gets tagged into your assets. Possibly tax implications with it on there?
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    Bury gone

    How is that good? Like I said it keeps the status Quo - that’s the sort of cavalier thinking that will lead to a European super league. Basically on that going you might aswell say - anyone out of London or Man Utd might aswell give up - you’re never going to win fuck all.
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    Bury gone

    How does it reward clubs? The only clubs that have pushed the boundaries in recent years are Red Bull Leipzig and Hoffenheim - both of which have extremely rich benefactors
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    Bury gone

    I didn’t excuse it - RA is never going to call that in.
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    Bury gone

    Thing is Ambramovic isn’t going to call that in - their turnover is ridiculously high, and when they build their new stadium he won’t have to - he could sell the club for that much. And that’s why I said we don’t have the nations interests ahead of club... There’s Mo way I’d swap our 2018 play...
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    Are SISU bad owners?

    Maybe OSB can correct me, but isn’t the loss artificially created by “admin fees” and interest on the loan to the owners?
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    Bury gone

    Wolfsburg are an exception to the German rule aren’t they - they’re owned by Volkswagen. And the 50 + 1 rule didn’t exist when Kaiserslautern did it I don’t get the hatred for the “oil barons” Chelsea and Man City don’t have debt - they’ve also created 2 more challengers. I hope Wolves get up...
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    SISU, St Andrews, Bury and Bolton

    Bury will be interesting because they still exist. They haven’t been liquidated so in theory couldn’t they continue to pay the contracts and costs and theoretically still exist
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    Bury gone

    And how do you value the 51%, who decides who the fans are?
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    Bury gone

    6 is still better than the occasional 2. the ability to be bankrolled by a rich benefactor is better than Germany. The German model and league is geared towards helping the international side. We as a nation don’t have that loyalty to England that we do to our clubs Also going back to the...
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    Are SISU bad owners?

    They could have tried to play out rent negotiations in public. Put what we got originally out of the Ricoh in the open and say what we wanted. They’d have got fan support if they communicated better
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    Are SISU bad owners?

    I’ve defended their recent decisions but overall I’d say bad PROS 1) we now run within our means 2) two trips to Wembley 3) New focus on academy 4) Broke the lease that hamstrung the club CONS 1) played outside of Coventry twice 2) debt has increased 3) 2 relegations 4) hostile actions...
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    Bury gone

    That would be impossible to implement, further to this - our trust would run the club into the ground. I don’t get the clamour for the German model. You’d never get a Leicester situation over there. Bayern are the only team out their with the occasional Dortmund season
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    Bury gone

    Maybe not - but it does show that they need and want the club to be somewhat successful. Not for the fans - but for the investors. Currently, we’re a long term home ground with normal revenues away from having a well settled football club. People have to realise that unfortunately football...
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    Bury gone

    Annoying thing is - if we had stable revenues we’d easily compete at the top end of this league.
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