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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What a stupid thing to say. You are leaving because of 2 individuals who have been elected or chosen by an electoral college for a small number of years in an organisation / trading bloc of 500 million people. You don’t like them, but most of the EU is not bothered about them. Juncker has had...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I want to see that you understand what sort of people and what sort of motives were behind the leave campaign which took place in the UK. Tusk and Juncker are not relevant in this conversation. The problem for you and Astute is that if we don’t talk about Tusk or Juncker you’ve had it.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You just say things. Any relation to Donald Trump? Farage is a well know Brexit figure sometimes referred to as Mr Brexit. He led UKIP and claims UKIP forced the referendum. UKIP was a problem for Cameron. Now Farage is a pundit and a Talkshow host which allows him to continue to spread his...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not interested in Juncker.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What do they want? She cannot even get her cabinet to put forward a unified plan. So how the hell do you know what the majority of 17,4 million voters wanted? - apart from wanting out, nobody knows how we are leaving 2 years after the event. Pathetic.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Remain lost and in general they exaggerated predictions as opposed to telling downright lies. If remain had won you could claim our destiny was influenced by predictions which didn’t happen. As it is we’re leaving and the decision was manipulated by deliberate lies. This has been admitted by...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    By not sharing your point of view?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes it will and hopefully we ( not me as I am not allowed to vote ) will get a chance to either agree or not agree with what the government finally comes up with as an agreement. If they cannot agree with the EU, then we should be asked if we still want to go ahead with Brexit, or bin it as a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You are nuts. You bet that I use the NHS so that is now fact? I have private health insurance and I am healthy anyway. I haven’t been to a doctor in the UK ( apart from A and E for my daughter who is also insured ) for more than 30 years. Or maybe 40.. I can’t remember it’s so long ago...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You really do beiieve these type of people only exist in Britain don't you? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Are you going to answer my question about Lord Ashcroft or are you going to deflect?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have taken German citizenship because nothing has been decided yet and I am not waiting until we have left the EU to find out what happens. I have a right to German citizenship as an EU citizen. Next year I lose that right, so I had to take it while I still can. The EU is not taking any...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you think I am taking the piß out of you?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You don’t like democracy do you? Yes, sometimes bad people get elected. What do you suggest? Monarchy? Dictatorship? Anarchy? Religious head of government? With democracy you can at least vote people out if things are not going well. Laws can be changed and the system can evolve. I am...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not neutral. I am sure that a portion of the leave voters have been led up the garden path by the likes of Arron Banks, Farage and co.. I don’t for one moment think that Brexit is anything other than a stupid decision. How can anyone be neutral if you are having a discussion about „EU in...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What benefits do I get from the UK? Does sticking with Britain mean giving up the democratic right to oppose something which you don’t agree with? Sticking with Britain means calling out the people who are taking us out of the EU. That is what I am doing.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    His action in confirming the 4 principles which we agreed to was the only thing he could do. We had scope to remove EU migrants after 3 months if they didn’t have a job. So the myth that people were coming just to get eternal benefits was put out by our press and the rules were not enacted by...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We are talking about Britain: EU in or out. Not Poland. At least not directly. The point I was making about British based liars and crooks has nothing to do with Polish workers. Grendel always brings his pet Tusk into the conversation when I criticise dodgy goings on in the leave camp.why? Why...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What are you on about? I was talking about Brexit crooks. People try and talk about totally different „crooks“ as a distraction. I said we were talking about specific British crooks who led people in Britain up the garden path. That is not an assertion that the only crooks in the world are...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t. The people I refer to as scum are not the vast majority of people who voted leave, but the dodgy millionaires, far right fans, hedge fund owners whose funds invest in countries like Russia rather than the UK and tax dodgers more interested in their tax havens being left in tact than the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. Astute’s deflecting crap doesn’t alter anything. His favourite deflection tactic is to mention Juncker and Grendel“s is Tusk. Doesn’t matter what I say, I always get the same crap ...“what about Juncker?“ or „look at what Tusk did there“. Hilarious indeed.
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