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Although they’re an oil state reputation laundering project I wouldn’t mind Man City winning it.

I mean one of the few Real teams to do it. They’ve won 14 champions leagues but rarely La Liga in the same season. All the teams they’ve beat in the knockout stages would have been considered worthy winners. I think they deserve credit.

And yet one of the few to have done the league and CL double. They just play to their strengths and win. They may not be attractive to modern standards but they get the job done.

I don’t know how Owen even gets these gigs. He even admitted himself he prefers the horses.

TAA only exists because of the imbalance in the premier league. He doesn’t have to defend in 75% of the games he plays in because it’s one way traffic.

But as you’ve noted before defenders these days are shocking. His assists aren’t all that impressive when he has the strikers he has running beyond Norwich’s centre backs.

Is he that great going forward? He was pretty shite all round tonight but as soon as he knew he’d fucked it for Madrid’s goal his body language was shocking and did nothing to threaten Madrid.

Yep. They knew their limitations and strengths and completely nullified Liverpool’s strengths. Klopp completely out managed by Ancelotti.

Uber eats some tins

To be fair if VAR was used correctly - to correct catastrophic errors - then it would have remained not given as the Lino flagged and it was tight. In that situation though it would be a 20 second check and done.

Bit of a shite first half. Madrid nowhere near the team Liverpool are but Carlo knows it and has set them up perfectly. I’d have given the goal though

I made a similar point earlier in the week. Alrhough the telegraph has softened in recent years there is no way they wouldn’t be running with sisu doing this. That twat David Conn who loved writing about evil hedge funds in sports clubs hasn’t said a peep either.

This just shouts from the rooftops how fucked they are. no way would any successful business allow this to happen. I’m sure they’ll find a way of kicking the can down the road but without a miracle from somewhere their failure here is inevitable.

I don’t think Blues can go down twice mate

Yeah definitely miles better. I hate playing Preston one week then Blues the next who have the same kit in a different colour. We're blessed.

Their issue will be if the fans can stay content enough for them to bob around in lower mid-table for a season of consolidation. They are very much an all or nothing fanbase and will want to be challenging. If they end up getting rowdy then Neil could get the sack and then you end up with no...

Then the rest of them would argue that senators should carry in the chamber

I went to the Vienna derby. Atmosphere was banging with only about 8k in a 50k stadium. League is shite now red bull buy it every year though

You say that like it's a bad thang. Would be a banging European tour where you don't care if you lose.

It was the right decision to let Biamou go. We are still building a championship quality squad (we have a championship quality first team now) and you don't do that by keeping players who are below the level around.