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  1. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s the opposite of what polls say and what people say where I travel here. They cannot understand us and certainly don’t want to end up in our position.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think that 17,4 million people had a host of different reasons. Many for the reasons you quoted. Problem is, that if several hundred thousand had voted differently we would have had maybe a slight majority the other way. Did the lies and the leading up the garden path bring a different result...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No one is going to open up the farmers to absolutely free trade competition with the whole world. If they are undercut and go out of business then we are beholden to other countries for our food. One thing if we lost manufacturing, another if we lost our food production. Even if it makes...
  4. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Exactly, but you cannot say that the non voters were passionately behind Brexit and claim the nation is behind Brexit.
  5. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Protectionism in the form of agreed and reciprocal trading. Not just doing a Trump. The EU has deals or arrangements witha large part of the world. The rest of the world has it’s own borders and protectionism. You have to negotiate to get as much free trade as possible. But there are quality...
  6. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, I have adapted Grendel’s style.
  7. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Different day and you still can’t make a valid point.
  8. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, business in the pub is slack because of the unusually hot summer and lack of a Biergarten. But, I am not bound by the pub. I am traveling and working at different times in different cities with my mobile Biergarten. Best case scenario: Brexit is seen as a bad idea and binned. Probably...
  9. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What have I denied? We are up shit creek without a paddle? May was weakened not strengthened when she asked voters to back „Brexit means Brexit“? That the referendum was lost 52:48? I have merely confirmed that you are talking bollocks claiming that the Nation wants Brexit. Half the nation at...
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Your English is sometimes hard to understand. First paragraph ok. Second not so easy to understand. Everyone is concerned about job losses through Brexit. Very understandable. Who stands to benefit economically?
  11. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You ever answered a question on topic or without another question?
  12. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, I am saying they advise remain .. presumably to keep up this protectionism and there is no way they are not lobbying to keep it that way. So no change there if we leave.
  13. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Their advice is based on an opinion poll?
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am saying that after we leave without a deal, if that happens, the BoE will have to react as there will be a crisis. I wouldn’t mind betting that some hedge funds have already taken a position on that and are campaigning for a no deal situation.
  15. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I didn’t say that. You made it up. As usual.
  16. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes of course it is.., ask the Daily Express they’ll confirm it.
  17. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. Some of them thought we would vote remain so didn’t bother voting. Which is what I was pointing out
  18. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Oh, I see. Then you will be pleased to see our farmers asking for the dropping all EU farming regulations. NFU advised it’s members to vote remain. I wonder why.
  19. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    He wasn’t completely wrong though. He had to pump money in to save the pound and therefore the economy. The BoE reacted, if they hadn’t have we would be in worse trouble.
  20. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We don’t have pro and anti EU papers here. We didn’t have this debate as we didn’t have a referendum.
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