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It is all about selling arms. The 2014 meeting was the meeting that counts as it supersedes the previous meetings.

Not according to the Germans who were at the Wales meeting....

Wales. NATO summit 2014. agreement to increase spending to 2% of GDP within 10 years. That means by 2024. which is vague ( it doesn’t say how quickly you have to increase over the period) as is how you calculate defence spending.

Have you not noticed that people are becoming more polarised?

Not pathetic. There is no agreement that says 2%. That is a target for 6 years time. The Bundeswehr is underfinanced anyway and they will invest. There is no exact way of gauging what counts as military spending. Pensions to retired generals for example. It is not easy. The idea of the European...

There was never as much right wing influence in Britain as there is today. There will be a few things that get pushed through whilst we are arguing about Brexit. Brexit is a huge part of the news and political discussions. It is a distraction.

So you are saying the CBI is dependent on it’s support from the EU and will ignore the views of it’s members to keep the money? Rees Mogg is part owner of a 9,7 billion pound hedge fund. He, on the other hand, is purely interested in the working class Brexit voters‘ well being?

No, he is not. Firstly there are different ways of calculating Defence spending. You could include foreign aid to poor regions in Africa. That comes under preventing wars. Secondly, Germany was occupied by the USA. It was formed into a country representing American/ Western values and became an...

UKIP was what the Germans call a „Sammelbecken“ .... where all these sort of people- racists, bigots, ill informed, easily conned people collect. If we had had PR they would individually be in the 1 or 2% bracket of many small parties. They wouldn’t get into parliament, but would have a voice...

Ffs. You have got bored with Juncker. Now it’s Germany. Rich, low crime, democratic, low unemployment.... A model EU country. Now, attack that. All the time. Like Farage and the other imbecile, Trump. Boring...

Yes, after we have left.

What a load of crap. Leave is up to it’s eyes in investigation into the use of social media to spread it‘s BS. BoJo says „fxxk business“, Mogg says the CBI always gets things wrong and they are funded by the EU ( 0,6% comes from the EU... technically he hasn’t lied, but he has implied that they...

People on here said „not Southgate“ „ please not“ ( if I recall rightly... and I am pissed now )...

UKIP will change their Name. And pretend to be mainstream Brexit. It is up to the real „decent folk“ to resist. It won‘t be easy to resist the populist assault... but I will .. #hangfarage

No. It is annoying.. but it’s not that much in reality..

Me too..

Yes, the best since 1990...

Stuck in a room of French people.... they wanted Croatia because they think they will be easier than England..

yes... Germany wants to use existing detention facilities and send the people back within 48 hours to the country they originally registered in. The last few days that has been around 10 people that they would have to send back from the Bavarian border. The whole Seehofer plan is a joke. It is...

No, just a reminder for Astute.