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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Another Brexit cliche..... and it is Juncker.... the drunks were those with similar views to yourself...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We have a parliamentary democracy to avoid having constant referendums. The government has said we are leaving. Why on earth did they call it an advisory referendum and then promise they will carry out the result? It is either advisory or it is binding. Having said that....Ok, then do it then...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It's not up to the EU to change the rule book because the UK Tories have internal problems. And they do see problems, but, despite what some spiv may have told you, they are democratic and any changes will have to agreed by the members.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU has a set of rules which 28 countries have to hold to. The U.K. is making it up as they go along. What was said last week is history this week. I would put my money on the EU evolving slowly, but sensibly and the U.K. crashing about like a drunk at a Free Tommy Robinson march.....
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What now? No one has been invaded and forced into the EU. There are still people waiting to join. If you want to free yourself you just trigger article 50 and go. There is no iron curtain, just badly informed people being led up the garden path by organised disinformation campaigns. It really is...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All wrong as usual. I have said several times that the EU parliament should have more power. For one thing more people would vote at EU elections. PR is more democratic than FPTP. I am not obsessed with Merkel. I just respect her intelligence in comparison with others. I have to defend her from...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are getting nowhere. So they say bully boy tactics from the EU. They cannot deliver Brexit without causing damage. Not possible. So, they do what they have been doing for years, blame the EU. If you want to blame anybody, blame the people who put in this position. We are now up...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Olli Robins has been doing the negotiating. David Davis has done virtually nothing this year. He was taken off the case by May and she let the civil servants get on with it. David David : lazy as a toad, thick as mince. Not my words.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Nice try as a distraction, but you are all over the place at the moment. The Holy Roman Empire was not the same as the Roman Empire. And I have no idea where you get the idea that I said there are no German influences. I have said that Merkel is not the Empress of the EU as you seemed to be...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, I don’t. I had never heard of him before you mentioned him in your confusion about the Holy Roman Empire. If he is using the same arguments as myself, then it is either pure coincidence, or he is following the discussion on here. Seeing as you class him as very learned and he and myself come...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is clear that he is answering a question on peaceful protests. How did the Tommy Robinson protest play out? Insulting and attacking British police and stopping a Muslim female driver. Sounds more like a radical Muslim demonstration- apart from the drunken behaviour of course.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think you are confusing Khan with the real publicity seeking orange tosser that you gladly give a pass to.
  13. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’ll take Voltaire‘s version over Grendel‘s any day.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. Startling parallels. Surprised that I got an indirect like from Grendel.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    According to the Express ( The Daily Farage) the Khan balloon is planned for August. And Khan is quoted as: „After it was announced the Trump balloon would be allowed to take off, Mr Khan told Good Morning Britain signalled he would not censor protesters flying a Sadiq Khan balloon as long as it...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The most crying comes from the poor victims. Namely the Trump fans. How did your pro Trump and pro Tommy Robinson March go? Lots of drinking, bottle throwing mouthing off and even blocking a bus driven by a woman wearing a head scarf. Sounds like a great success. Did they obtain permission for...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I didn’t criticise the Roman Empire. I didn’t say much about it, apart from Grendel had mixed it up with the Holy Roman Empire which some people think has some similarities with the aims and objectives of the EU ( it does actually ). I pointed out differences to the EU. I assume you were being...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What, you mean not everyone speaks English? Really? And that is a reason for leaving the EU?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t happily accept a low turn out. That is a factor in letting in extremism. The EU parliament should have more power. If it did, more people would vote. The countries prefer to keep their power in the Council and keep their veto rights. If the parliament had more power you would call it a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Quit was probably apt in the case of the head quitter. My spell correcter obviously associated Farage with quitting. Yes, PR and the EU gave the hapless failed politician his stage. He may have quit the EU, but unfortunately he hasn’t quit politics.
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