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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As Farage‘s mates did when he said that leave had lost on the evening of the referendum, although he knew from private polling commissioned by those mates that leave had won. They made quick forward transactions whilst the rest of the world thought remain had won. Cashed in millions when the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There are various calculations. The last I saw was 39 bn. But some things are liabilities on guarantees on loans which may be called on in future years. We pay our contribution to the EU budget until the end of the 7 year period in 2020. 39bn is a net payment assuming we get so much back for...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Really? Subscribe to read | Financial Times We signed up to liabilities and membership payments to 2020 which we cannot get out of under international law.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In other words you couldn’t answer the question and explain the difference and decided to insult me. Even got a like from your mentor.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    IDS says it will be no problem for us. So where’s the problem? WTO it is then. The EU is intent on us complying as much as possible to EU rules. Makes life easier for all concerned. It has said that there can be alternatives, but they won’t be as good as what we have now.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Instant comment from my biggest stalker. So Sick Boy and I are not alone by far.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We are not out of international jurisdiction. What rules are they bending unilaterally?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Exactly. That is a realistic comment. For a change.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Apparently not.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You know that do you? I thought they needed us more than we need them? Have you changed your mind on that?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Oh really? Well we will see. My money is on us paying what we have already agreed to. Some things are liabilities for guarantees which are due, or may not be due in years to come. We cannot get out of them. Rees Mogg is saying that we don’t have to pay. He hasn’t laid out any details of why. If...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well I agree that hard Brexit may already be priced in. I doubt whether people in the EU are not following what is going on. It will be priced in here as well. I am not being cocky. I won’t be celebrating because millions of people suffer more in one place than another. The whole thing is a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There are 2 parties. 1 is representing the interests of 27 countries obliged to follow certain rules. They have agreed that the rules must be upheld. It has been published on the EU‘s website what the aims of negotiations are. The other has only just come up with a white paper which doesn’t...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Obviously not, but we are the instigators of the problem. But for the UK and people like yourself, you cannot eat Schadenfreude.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Would be my preferred alternative, but I suggested a milder outcome.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We have to pay and we have agreed to pay and we will pay the amount agreed...minus any money which would have been for the transition period should we not get it. The „we‘ll knock ‚em and do a runner“ won’t work as they know where we live, so to say. Rees Mogg and co are suggesting that...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Let’s do that and see what Barnier says. Or, let’s go for a Norway deal and ask for a 5 year moratorium on FOM for certain countries. We weren’t obliged to accept people from Bulgaria and Romania. We did so. Germany and others didn’t accept Romanians and Bulgarians automatically for 5 ( or 7 )...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What complies with the rules, moron. If we don’t do that we can leave without a deal. It’s up to us.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU has asked us to put forward a workable proposal. We cannot. That’s it. Now it’s their fault for that, and by asking us for a workable proposal they are taking the piss?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    „ ↑ Answer the question. For the record...yes And do you understand what is meant by...fuck-off? Sent from my SM-G935“ Yes. I suppose he did articulate it perfectly by your standards.
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