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  1. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well if nothing confirms the point further... these MP’s want the public to choose now they are fully informed... yet not one will hold a by-election. Hypocrisy at its finest.
  2. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But still come out of it very comfortable for the rest of their days. MP’s like this as the ‘face’ of PV/2nd Ref is the reason it’s died on its arse.
  3. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Except they are not sticking their necks out... there is zero risk to them in reality. They will never get re-elected in their existing seats. They may target marginals, but it will be unlikely they will make impact, merely hoover up a combination of anti-Tory or anti-Lab votes, and even that...
  4. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t need to respond other than politely asking you to examine each of their voting records and then tell me what other conclusion to make from it.
  5. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are careerists... that’s what they are unhappy about losing. They just want things to stay the same forever... in a world where they make a good life out of doing pretty much nothing.
  6. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Another 3 MP’s looking for some consultantcy work after they lose their jobs in the next GE.
  7. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If there is no election it doesn’t matter what Corbyn does or says. The Tories made this mess, and they have to own it. If Corbyn came out tomorrow for a 2nd referendum it’s not going to take down parliament is it? He won’t suddenly become PM. All that would happen is that the focus will be on...
  8. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And then if Remain won? Best of 3? That would literally been the daftest move of all and would have consigned the party into oblivion. GE route was actually smart because if they were in power their deal reflects them. At the moment he’s expected to have done more for a deal he’s had no part in...
  9. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No one has an answer.... that’s why it’s so easy to pin indecisiveness on him.
  10. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I can’t see the 7 (now 8) standing in their existing constituencies as they’d lose comfortably. So then they target marginals... but whose? Labour is the obvious but what about Lib Dem ones? Either way they are really only interested in facilitating the Tories and manintaning the status quo...
  11. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Please... the same Joan Ryan that was filmed at conference saying she could secure £1m to take down some Tory ministers and the Labour leadership to protect Israel’s interests....
  12. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You say commit - on what exactly? I would say he’s been extremely committed to his manifesto ideas and wanting to implement them should Labour take power. I assume we are going back to the big issue which is Brexit. If you were Labour leader how would you play the delicate balance between a...
  13. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Depends on how you define Leadership and electability. The age of slogans and sharp suits is over. Social Media and availability of information is changing the landscape. Take Heidi Allen as an example, you might suggest she is a more compassionate Tory. She has recently been touring the UK...
  14. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m a Labour man and I can’t fucking stand him. Each to their own I suppose. He epitomises why People’s Vote will never win, and why leave would win all over again.
  15. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In reality - there is probably a balance of anti-semitism across the political spectrum, and the majority of this is down to 2 factors. First of all education - people who are making anti-Semitic comments through a lack of understanding and ignorance. Secondly - in the defence of Palestine...
  16. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You know that the process is controlled by the General Secretary, not the Leader. For someone so knowledgeable you seem to have this blind spot. You saw the data - 20% of the cases reported were not even Labour members - are you telling me Labour have a bigger problem of anti-Semitsm than the...
  17. Ian1779

    Is this what we have to look forward to

    No need for the jumpers, I’ve got a spare set of goalposts they can have.Just need some pegs to hold them down.
  18. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I personally think we’ve hit a point where centre ground politics is finished. Centre ground politics facilitated the referendum vote, and arguably contributed to a leave vote winning. Ultimately, they have no policies and no real reason for anyone to vote for them. Just interested in securing...
  19. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’ll never know what the public really want unless you take it to them. It’s no wonder that collectively the splitters all oppose Brexit. Amazingly out of touch with the voters of any party.
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