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With regard with the debt that SISU owe to themselves, there's an old saying... If you owe someone a thousand pounds, and have nothing, and they call it in - you're f*cked. If you owe someone a million pounds, and have nothing, and they call it in - they're f*cked. ;)

ARVO has to increase its stake in the club in terms of equity if the investment is to be used for FFP, I believe. Given that ARVO is clearly tied to SISU, I can't see what SISU have to gain from passing on a loss-making business to themselves. They're still taking losses, and writing off a...

I'm prepared for it. The whole point of NOPM is to put financial pressure on the owners. If the accounts covering the last financial year are this grim, imagine how bad the next set will look. At some point, they will tire of it - and either see sense and move back, or sell up, or perhaps both.

The alternative scenario, in which SISU lose the JR/don't get the Ricoh on their terms, doesn't necessarily mean disaster imho. They could still return under the deal currently offered, they could try to negotiate something different and return, or if neither of those options are palatable...

Thanks OSB. On this basis I'm going to propose that we get two independent valuations of the worth of SBS&L. That should get shot of the 'myths' around the value of it. SISU should then sell the club for the average of the two valuations. I hope they've got change for a fiver. ;)

For what it's worth, I don't think Fisher saying that the stadium will take less than a year to build necessarily implies that it will be a temporary structure. I think it's possible that you could build a 'standard' out-of-the-box permanent stadium pretty quickly these days - how that sits...

What Brian said, really. I trust SP will be printing this out and attaching it to the dressing room door. :D

Ah, got it - thanks gents. At a billion for Champions League football, it must be the most expensive loss leader ever! Surely this can't be sustainable?

I'm with you almost 100% on everything you've posted above, except that I think that a club has to pay its way and shouldn't expect any help from the taxpayer. I'm not just talking about us here, btw - any business that can afford to pay its staff six or seven-figure salaries shouldn't be...

Why mate? Why won't it happen? Why should we pretend that there isn't a deal on the table that makes good sense for the club.

I'm not saying it wouldn't work, but there's no need to tie moving back into the Ricoh into any conditions that I can see. The simple fact is that by moving back, the club makes more money. At the point they're back they can start negotiating about anything they want. If that doesn't pan out...

Actually, what I was doing is shooting down the tired old argument that all this is the Council's/ACL's fault because they spoke to Preston Haskell (after all of the things I've listed). What you're doing is expanding the argument to where we go round in circles about the earlier stuff -...

Sounds like three-years to me. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/sisu-boss-joy-seppala-rejects-6363684 Even if it was ten years - at £100k/pa the buy out should the club choose to build a new stadium (presuming it couldn't negotiate for more of what it wants at the...

And once again we descend into madness. At what point did Cov CC/ACL talk to Haskell. Was it before or after SISU stopped paying the bills? Before or after TF shook hands on a reduced rent? Before or after the club had a third-party debt order placed against it by the court? Before or after...

What were the terms of the offer to (or rather via) the FL again? Would CCFC be better off financially under this deal, or not?

There is no "yeah, but" here. Again, I'm really amazed by the logic here. The rental deal was made to the FL so that everyone was aware there was an offer and what the nature of the it was. Does anyone here really believe that if SISU had agreed to accept the offer (or even talk about it)...

Just to pick you up on this NW, I presume you're talking about the latest rent offer made via the FL? To me, that offer was made via the FL so that SISU couldn't deny it - it seems obvious to me. Do you think that ACL would make the offer to the FL and then withdraw it if SISU accepted it?

Can we just be clear here - the Council does not have a controlling interest in ACL. I can't understand why there's so much confusion around this. They can't wind up or sell ACL all on their own. You're asking the council to do something that they simply can't do. You're also conflating the...

Higgs tried that - SISU left them with tens of thousands of pounds of costs. That court case is coming up in April. In the meantime, SISU's court case against the Council is coming up in June. On that basis, I think SISU may have to earn a bit of trust with the respective parties (and vice...

Mate, everything comes in cycles. In ten years time everyone will be playing on mudbaths, using 2-stone medicine balls, and have two very big lads up front. For the first time ever, the F.A. are ahead of the curve. Embrace the horror. ;)