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You have to wonder about ML, don't you. Maybe it's just his nature, to whine and spin everything. What does he say to his wife after dinner - "Some of the individual components were quite nicely cooked, but as a dish I'm afraid it didn't really work for me I'm afraid. Overall, fail." ;)

If we're not offering Murphy a new contract, then I suspect funding a successful squad isn't really at the top of the owner's priorities. I could probably live with that, if we weren't throwing millions down the drain simply to distress our former landlord... In fairness it's early days yet -...

I'm sorry but you're wrong. Simon's explained perfectly clearly what happened, but because it doesn't suit an anti-ACL agenda it seems you're trying to spin it as something else. This was between the Council/VOA and CCFC Ltd. When it was determined upon appeal to the VOA that CCFC were paying...

By the sound of it, they've already been paid what they're owed, £399,000. They'd like to go back to 2005 from reading that article, but the VOA site seems to rule that out... http://www.2010.voa.gov.uk/rli/static/HelpPages/English/faqs/faq104-can_i_appeal_against_the_2005_valuation.html ...

I wondered that too. Perhaps a clause in the lease with ACL that makes them responsible for any shortfall in rates on behalf of the various sub-tenants (CCFC, Casino etc). Seems odd though, because the VOA has in effect ruled that the rates charged weren't actually due. I suppose if nothing...

I'm giving this a like, partly because it makes some sense, but mostly because you managed to work in the word "hoojamaflip". Tremendous, I always wondered how it was spelt. :)

If the club would go bust in two years at the Ricoh under a rental deal, with crowds of (say) 10,000 plus, then how are they going to survive at Northampton with 2,000 or less. Maybe someone ought to tell the FL, because clearly the plan sold to them by Otium is false if ML's statements above...

I think you need to read the trial transcripts again. Fisher wanted everyone to agree to the rent strike/escrow drawdown in his initial roadmap meeting. Within a short period it was clear that people weren't going to go along with this - that's also in the transcripts. SISU went ahead anyway...

The last two are the easy ones - CCFC needed the £6.5m to save them from going under, and the charity gave them the money to help them out. The valuation was presumably agreed between the two parties, which of course is how values for things are typically established, and there was a formula...

You're implying here that the charity are ripping SISU off if they want to get somewhere close to what they put in, I think. I'd suggest the true rip-off is SISU expecting/demanding to get hold of it for way less than that - especially on the back of a valuation done at the point they've taken...

I'm glad that we're clear that ACL aren't distressing SISU at the moment - it seemed that you were suggesting that they were somehow. With regard to the past, I think it's fairly reasonable to assume that at the point when SISU stopped paying the rent and starting threatening liquidation most...

I'm still at a bit confused here as to why people like Nick seem to think the Higgs charity should be obliged to sell their shares for a loss. There still seems to be the argument that they bought the share in expectation of realising a substantial profit, and therefore the downside is that...

Grendel's the slavish obsessive here, which is why I ignore him. Everything for him is about the council. I'm guessing he went to the toilet once and they didn't come round to flush it for him. Or he's just a troll - because as soon as he gets challenged for evidence he throws out a couple...

Which one mate, specifically? The only email read in court from Chris West regarding PR and SISU related to Jan 2013 as I've said. Which one were you talking about, where's your evidence. I haven't mentioned SISU and a likely rent - we're obviously going be on the end of pretty high...

I've got one you and ML might like. Smoke. Fire. In other words, there isn't actually any evidence of a Chris West PR campaign against SISU? And certainly not a current one. Or indeed of the somewhat risible idea that ACL could in some way distress SISU from thirty-five miles away and without...

Hey, why so mean? Everyone deserves a 22nd chance, that's what I say. ;)

The only talk of Chris West and PR relating to SISU in the Higgs trial was back in Jan 2013, as far as I can find any mention of it. Obviously this was after SISU caused ACL direct financial damage by withholding payment of a lawful debt. If you don't pay your debts, and you end up in court...

Good point. It does seem strange that. But not as worrying as the fact that we still haven't got a picture of JS. For God's sake Torchy, can't you focus on the important stuff for once. ;)

Completely disagree - but it is an excellent retort, I'll give you that. ;) I wonder if MK's usual room is available.