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IF TM is given funds of course.

I think you may have missed the point.

Yup, didn't score a goal did he?

Must we do this? :thinking about:

Well put

It's potato you moron! :D

Oooh the C bomb! Must you get so wound up? You're wrong and you know it, you've pretty much admitted it so I will say good night. :D

So our destiny is actually, mathematically in our hands? Never mind if's n shit, is it or isn't it?

And Otis... stop fence sitting when you know I'm right!

There is nothing theoretical about it... it is actually, factually and mathematically out of our hands. I think you meant how clever you are. :D

We could, if only you had admitted you were wrong earlier. But you have now so no hard feelings.

Me too, it takes a big man to apologize so credit to you for that.

I'll take that as an apology, thank you.

Well I tried to bury this but clearly you won't let this go. So back to basics... A. ''In our own hands'' means that our destiny is NOT dependent on any other team/result. B. ''Not in our own hands'' means that our destiny IS dependent on other teams/results. Which of these applies to CCFC at...

Ok, I apologize if I have been less than polite and will now let this go. And breathe......

Yes I know what he means and agree. The phrase is simply not correct though and he keeps insisting that it is. Sorry for being a pedant but it got up me hooter! ;)

You seem, well... cocksure.

Tell that to CCFC! There shouldn't be an argument but because it is not a matter of opinion, but there you go. Anyhow Otis, I've seen you argue the toss when roused! :D

I have no argument with any of that apart from your insistence that it is ''in our own hands''. You clearly do not understand the phrase. (or percentages)

Ain't it though!