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Yep. Dion Dublin best player, Tony Mowbray, best ever manager. Oops, sorry, went into full on CC4L mode there for a moment.

Just one individual though?

He doesn't need to have an impact on his U21's, they have been doing brilliantly anyway. Swansea's win on Saturday may well have helped us. Had they have lost again then players tonight might have been putting themselves in the shop window for selection to the first team. First team players...

Leaving in October has nothing to do with it though. It's the squad he left behind that was unfit for this league. That is why he will hold a large proportion of blame.

Well yep, but then look at our squad. Had we been in a false position then I would say yes, we have a not bad side and we can get out of this. Trouble is we have a poor side. Slade now has 7 days to rectify this and make us half decent.

And I have my fingers very firmly crossed.

Unless it is Les from the Observer I am all ears.

But we have always sold players and fans have always moaned. Willie Carr, Mortimer, Wallace, Dublin, Keane, Westwood, Dann and Fox, Maddison etc. etc. etc. We have always sold our best players and fans have always moaned.

And why Seppala is a Christian.

Think most of us are quite happy with that. Sell a player for £1.5m, but reinvest say half a million of that back into recruitment. That's the way to go. It's what most clubs do. Pretty much every football club is a selling club. You have to have a degree of ambition to go with it though...

Don't think anyone has said the worst manager have they? :)

Yep. All I am saying is that statistically if we go down he is going to look like a very bad manager. Last season we should have been playoffs minimum. Then this season we totally underperformed. I know CC4L thinks he would have turned it round, but he recruited the wrong players and gave us a...

Yep, agree.

Could be. Could be Venus more so than Mowbray. On of the things that worried me about Mowbray when he came was that he said he knew nothing of League One. They definitely picked the wrong players on the whole.

None of them though took the club from top of the league to bottom four though did they. :)

At the moment I'm blaming him for Trident and my missus being in a foul mood.

The way we played on Saturday with the constant long ball makes me think it would be pointless Stevenson staying anyway. Sell him, get a big lump of a centre forward and a midfield general and we may be on to something.

I would think we would be wiser next time out. With Sisu it was the 11th hour and we were very, very desperate. Would think next time we would be in a stronger position not to just bend over and be shafted by dodgy hedge funds.