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Yep, agree with this. Would chose Shipley over JMD though.

We draw on Saturday and we could easily be 7 points adrift. None of the top teams play each other and all have pretty decent matchups on paper.

And you have to base a team being 8 points away as us needing about 4 or 5 wins to even catch up to. Can't just think the team above is going to start losing. If we say won 4 out of 4, that's obviously 12 points. You would then though need the that team above to lose 2 and draw 1 of their 4...

In a division though where we have been one of the favourites to go up and where we have been expected to win a lot more games due to the level we are playing at.

It is galling. You go a goal down you expect a reaction. You don't expect to just stick to the same plan and then hope you can sneak a goal by going for it with only 15 mins left, or just in one half only.

It's a lot of points to make up though. You can find yourself chasing your tails. You need to win, but also see the teams above you lose. If they keep winning it can be deflating, because you are winning, but not making up any ground. Out of the top 7, only Notts County are truly faltering.

We were. Third favourites with the bookies. I mean we were favourites, not THE favourites.

And on the no players out in the 3 windows, I do think a factor was that we were favourites to go up this season and we would have surely sold that notion to the players. Next season I am not at all convinced we will be favourites at all. If we don't make the playoffs, it will be the teams in...

We don't know though that any Maddison money will be reinvested in the team.

And also our away form and failing to win against teams from near the bottom. Morecambe, Forest Green (twice), Barnet.

Would need a fantastic unbeaten run, with quite a few victories to go alongside a few draws. Cross my fingers that the wheels haven't already come off.

I just don't at all see why we will be stronger. Much more likely to be weaker with a smaller ST uptake.

This is how the L2 table looks now. Yep, games in hand on some teams, but still, you have of course got to win them. Same games as Exeter, but 7 and 8 points adrift of the next 2 sides. Makes Mansfield and Wycombe away look more daunting.

That's us now ''FFS we are now only 5 points off the playoffs.'

Oh bugger. Now 2-1 up. :(

No, as long as they didn't win.

Excellent! Crewe just taken a 1-0 lead against Exeter. 8th min. Shaun Miller. Great news for us.

Yep. Good idea. Could also have a word with all the food and drink outlets in the away mall. Any Sunderland fan orders a beer or pie, the assistant on the till says 'Yeah, no problem . It will be ready in about 15 minutes. '

Why do you think of him as suspect, Wingy?