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Bluntly, the lack of civility because you can't help but to lapse into unnecessary insults. This is pretty much your first post where you haven't done that. If I imply that I could explain something but you're too stupid to understand, how would that make you feel? And then, as politely as I...

See, for all of your protesting, you're really not capable of civilised debate are you? No need to go through the whole story, you brought up Mandelson and Labour in a story from 2008, just explain why what they were doing was wrong and why it was 20 years out of date? Simple request. Or...

And you're avoiding answering questions. If you want a higher standard of debate, here it is right now. All I've done is politely ask a few questions. Think of it as a chance to share your wisdom with us. So again, if it wasn't right in 2008 to be friends with Russia, when was it right...

Sorry, again not with you. The Mandelson story was from 2008, when I presume you're saying we shouldn't have been making friends with Russia. Nothing to do with your dislike of Labour though, I'm sure. So, are you saying we should've been making friends with Russia in 1988, when it was actually...

OK, so if I've understood you correctly, you're saying that we should have made Russia a friend, but because it was someone from Labour doing it at the time, it must have been wrong? Have I got that about right?

So just to clarify, you're saying that you drop to the lowest possible standard of debating to 'fit in' with the horrible people here, whilst simultaneously raising standards and winning the argument by posting trash? I'm a little confused, can you explain how that works please? Again, it...

Yes, just two points on that again, a lot of labour people don't tend to like Mandelson and his cosying up to immense wealth deregulation of the city etc., and as before Russia wasn't destroying Ukraine at that point in time. Again though, didn't you say that we should have been making friends...

Not at all, no. So presumably you'll be able to answer the question?

And just like that, he was gone...

Just a quick update on this tremendously worthy cause (ahem, hint). It's now the biggest ever GoFundMe page. There's no need for empty gestures, if that's troubling you, it is possible to help directly. https://www.gofundme.com/f/helpukraine

Agreed, and you're absolutely right of course, politicians attract dodgy mates like sh*t attracts flies. It's only this lot that have been so outrageously blatant about it though.

I dunno, but that air superiority claim seems a bit unlikely to me, given the 40 mile convoy that's just begging to be hit and Ukraine's ongoing requests for a no fly zone to be implemented. Not saying it's wrong, but I can't see how that stacks up.

Indeed, but I can't remember a governing party ever taking donations from Russian oligarchs before - or have I missed something?

Right, not sure I'd agree there... but nonetheless you're saying you've done nothing to diminish standards hereabouts? You don't get involved in ad hominem attacks or anything like that?

Hmm, yes, possibly, although that's a long time ago perhaps, before Russia was was obliterating another European country. And weren't you just saying how all of this was because the west had scorned Russia's friendship in the past, or was that a different 'Grendel'?

Hmm, right... and you of course have played absolutely no part in that... You're just an innocent victim here, yes?

In the meantime, Boris drinking with an actual Russian agent, Joseph Mifsud. If we're going to talk Russian influence I don't think it'll be a happy place for any Tories hereabouts, eh Grendel...

I can't work out whether you want people to take you seriously or not. There's no point in raging elsewhere about how people treat you if you delight in the constant low level, low-IQ trolling...

In fairness the half-life on his fake tan could probably run a small power station for a few decades.

That absolutely isn't all you said though, is it? You started banging on about Corbyn and commies and anti-democracy and all the usual bollocks all in the same post. You then got called out on it, which of course is nothing at all to do with being 'cancelled'. It's funny how the same people...