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So herd immunity is impossible as you'll always have a significant percentage whose antibodies have dropped off (be it jabbed or having caught it previously). The current approach is the correct one then, let's just get on with it?

How many under 18's do you think have already had it?

This is the bit I struggle with, I don't understand the theory why a country with 65m people, the majority vaccinated, would apparently be more likely to be a variant creating hotbed compared to somewhere like India?

I love the idea of them offering sponsorship to settle debts... 'Right Wasps, you owe us for that job' 'Yer about that. Would you like to sponsor us?' 'Er, ok then'... Telegraph headline - 'Wasps are delighted to announce Doris the cleaner as the new sponsor of...'

I'm hoping (praying!) that Southgate is another Joachim Löw - who incidentally took 4 major tournaments before winning - Someone who didn't have a great club manager record, pretty much fell into the role and learned on the job. Re the chaos at Wembley, my mate has followed England all over for...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/12/england-the-country-not-the-football-team-needs-to-take-a-look-at-itself '...England went unbeaten through the tournament with two central midfielders who have never played a Uefa club game. They got past Croatia, the Czech Republic, Germany and...

My coin toss analogy is that going into a penalty shoot out, you can't reliably predict who's going to win. Compare the two Swiss penalty shoot-outs; brilliant against France, awful against Spain. Every time we lose one, people will talk about things like ability and bottle, but it comes...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/12/hygiene-theatre-how-excessive-cleaning-gives-us-a-false-sense-of-security

Italy have won 5 and lost 6 penalty shoot-outs in Euros/WCs. Seems pretty toss of a coin to me.

How come the bookies have pretty much every pen shoot out as Evens for each team then?

The 53 pass move was just ridiculous. I don't think I've ever seen a team see out a game like that, let alone England!

Nah, don't be daft, I wasn't confident, I just didn't think we were as bad as people made out. I remembered posting the Euro odds in a thread ages ago and a few posters mocking us as favourites, but didn't see your post until this morning!

Ahem... :D

This is the thing that Southgate has done so well, really engendered an everyone's got their part to play culture. You could see he meant it when he said he was more concerned about who he was leaving out. Anywho, fk the psychology and niceties, c'mon England!!

You apparently don't celebrate any victories unless it ends up with a trophy/promotion!

This pint's shit, unless I'm drunk it's irrelevant... You can't have enjoyed watching Cov for the last 50 years either then!

Are you genuinely not enjoying the ride so far? This is better than any England team have done in my lifetime.