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It’s really not. Its density is 3 x central London.

I imagine our big hope is that Vik goes for £80m

I mean even if we stopped all the foreigners we’d still need to build something like a million homes to meet what we have. Are we saying that’s impossible?

Again, your starting point is Birmingham. It’s about design decisions but you can have perfectly liveable walkable cities that hold more than our current biggest cities. Forget everything else. Why can’t central London be like Manhattan? Would that be so terrible?

Im not sure what you are. It strongly depends on what I’m arguing it seems. As I said support for immigration is more a right wing than left wing thing. Now ask me about tax and spend.

More horrific hell holes that make Birmingham a paradise: Geneva, Paris, Seoul, Barcelona. Oh the horrors of cities denser than London.

Yep

GDP per capita mostly.

Would genuinely like to understand what people’s optimal population figure is. Exactly what it is now? What it was in 1900? What are we aiming for here if we can’t fit any more in?

This would have been a right zinger before me and NW had a conversation clarifying how it would be done. But you’re right, no jobs in Cornwall, so we’re unlikely to build there, more likely to increase density in the cities where the jobs are. As I said.

Cheers lads. Will head to the casino after.

£100m is fuck all in government terms anyway.

You’d rather Birmingham??

So you want fewer people in the UK?

I’m talking about building up in places like London Birmingham and Manchester. You’re on about urban sprawl. We have very low density major cities by international standards. And yes, France, Spain, Canada could absorb a lot more people, but we aren’t talking about their immigration policy.

New York has double the population density of London. Just saying.

No one is forcing you to live in a city.

Our population per square km is 277 according to wiki. Netherlands: 424, South Korea: 516, Singapore: 8,250. Loads of room to grow

im-migrant from in-migrant E-migrant e meaning “out” (like emit) like ingress and egress or inject and eject.

Not really left wing (open borders more of a classical liberal position) but I think I’d look at it slightly differently. I don’t think the country is close to full. We have low density housing in cities, and have only built on a tiny tiny percentage of the country. I think with proper...