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No mate, that would be like supporting Wasps. I'd never feel clean again. 😁 It's just I can see why they feel cheated and I've got an intense dislike of lying liars like CCC and Wasps getting away with it. I've only ever had a share (via the family) in CCFC, and SISU got that bugger off us...

As every Councillor has made clear *after* the outcry started... Before that it was all in secret, like the original bail out of the arena where the story was squashed by the council when Les Reid found out about it, and like the secret deal to sell to Wasps. Sooner or later mate, you're...

I've already been throwing tomato soup at a picture of Duggins, but the missus told me that I was being silly and I should just grow up and finish my dinner.

Whether he thinks Duggins is simple or not doesn't come into it. He can't just imply to Wasps that he can get £30m of match-funding without some sort of concept that it's feasible. This obviously wasn't done on a whim. There's obviously been something going on with the Council leaders, remember...

It's only 45p in the pound to the bondholders if they get everything offered, but the deal as quoted on ADVFN is that the payment is split across *all* creditors. I'm not clear on how much debt there is, but I seriously doubt the bondholders will end up with 45p in the pound if this goes through.

Looks like it's all coming to a head on 17th. High court application where purchaser (presumably Ashley), will apply for purchase of ACL without any security (i.e. bondholders mortgage on the lease) in place. Trustee seemingly saying he won't intervene as insufficient time to obtain...

Who says the match funding wasn't happening? Hottinger just made this up completely did they? They woke up thinking, let's pretend we've got £30m coming from the Council. No need to talk to anyone at the council, we'll just make it up. C'mon now, that makes no sense whatsoever. It's obvious...

The pushback is because you're coming from a completely false premise: The NHS isn't grossly inefficient, you're getting more or less what you're paying for. Guess what, if you've spent years and years demanding efficiencies, then you might have exhausted where they can come from. You can...

So... The leader of the council states categorically, in a public meeting, and to the press, that the council is not having discussions about bailing out Wasps. At the same time the most senior officer in the council is actively telling Wasps and a potential investor that they will match-fund...

A couple of assumptions here. The first is that the NHS is a black hole for funding. Maybe, but compared to most of our equivalent countries we're underfunding it and have been for a long time. The second is that we've also been looking for "efficiencies" in the NHS for a very long time too...

Hello? Did someone say something? 😁

Sorry to hear it mate. Makes you wonder what the point is...

So it's ok for the council to act completely unethically, as long as they're doing it for what they think are the right reasons, in your opinion at least. That's where you and I differ, and it's obvious that the the last time they did this - when selling in secret to Wasps and stating almost...

There is a rational accusation, we're just not sure if it's a true one. The suggestion, absolutely unproven, is that the council may have given Ashley the inside track on the administration of Wasps/ACL by tipping him off early. My question is, if it is true, is it an acceptable way for the...

Possibly a bit late for you now, CD, but did you consider legal action against them? Surely that's malpractice.

I'm not upset, but I'm entirely skeptical. Only the extremely naive, with all due respect, would take what the council say at face value. What you seem to saying is that it would be ok for the council to act against the club's owners, presumably because they're SISU. Or have I misunderstood...

It's not moot if the Council actively sought to scupper a possible competing bid is it? Whether SISU could have pulled it off or not is irrelevant, it's appalling conduct if it happened. The council may well not like SISU, not many of us do either, but that doesn't give them the right to...

My concern isn't whether or not SISU's bid would have succeeded, it almost certainly wouldn't imho. My concern is, did the Council try to do something to make sure SISU couldn't win. A bit of early insider information to Ashley and a helpful introduction to Wasps certainly wouldn't have hurt...

Who knows mate, obviously not if they wanted Ashley to win though. I was much happier when it looked like the Council weren't involved at all, because to me that would be the proper process. However there seems to be the clear suggestion that they have been sticking their oar in again, which...

Which would be fair enough, except there seems to be the suggestion that Ashley's "horse" had an eight week head start courtesy of being tipped off by the council that ACL were heading for administration (well before the NOI). That may be completely made up of course, but the Council does have...