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You're right in that I probably wouldn't agree with her conclusions, but having done some research you're also right in that it looks like there's a reasonable body of evidence that suggests that on average, trans women maintain a higher level of physical strength than the average cis woman...

For fuck's sake man, grow up or get yourself on Twitter (X), maybe it's more your style.

Hold up a moment on this, because the facts are slightly different. His dad actually owned the factory; it would far more accurate to class him as a self-employed toolmaker (itself a highly skilled trade). He wasn't working at the Standard, clocking in and out every day, knocking out washers...

Good luck mate!! Can't really advise on sedate drinking games, I think things like the "drink two fingers" punishment for holding your glass in your right hand etc., always end in tears. I'm a master of the "plant pot", personally, that is, tipping one's drink into another's glass when...

On your other stuff here, Starmer being to the left of Blair (at least Blair Mk.1), I'm not entirely convinced, but you've got me thinking. I'll do some more research and see if I can prove it. Otherwise I'll need to go into hiding. 😁 For me, I guess my "left wing" touch points are, reduction...

On the last bit, you said lifetime, iirc. I can't help that you're too young. 😄

If you vote for what you believe in you're not selling out. I'm not here to criticise anyone for voting Labour. But I'm also not having that this is a left wing Labour party, or probably even what I'd think of as centre-left. Genuine question, not a trap - Starmer isn't really proposing to...

Fair question, I lived through the late 70s, remember, so that's easy. Moving onto Blair, whom I voted for the first time enthusiastically, I certainly had the impression he still believed in a leftish Labour party, but maybe that's because of Thatcher. I don't see Starmer committing to the...

"Back in the real world"? What is it with guys like you and shmmeee and cheap digs. If you want to debate politics, then make your case. If you're going to sling out this pretence that you're somehow the only grown ups here, then bluntly you can bollocks too mate, because it's grindingly...

Do you understand the difference between economic plans and fiscal policy? This Labour party has committed to the same fiscal orthodoxy as the Tories. Everything must be fully costed, and taxation will not rise. Have I mis-stated that?

Which bits of Labour's current policy agenda could be described as left wing? I can see lots of stuff in the pledges about security and 'fully costed', but it seems a bit short on reducing inequality (other than with a few more teachers), or bringing utilities and transport back into state...

Where did I say that getting people who voted Tory to vote Labour is bad? I think you might be able to do that without directly copying Conservative fiscal policy though. That will be right wing fiscal policy, not centre left, for clarity. One of the actual fuck ways to win an election is...

You're right, it does point out that these are people who identify as women, that want to play as such, and can point to the fact that there's no significant physical advantage in their cases and presumably others. Whether the data is cherry picked or not is debatable, can you link to...

Maybe you haven't lived long enough mate, because this the current Labour party is most definitely not left wing. Trust me, I am! Also the election is not on a knife edge, particularly in this constituency. So I'm certainly not for the status quo, but I'm also not much for a party that seems...

There's some interesting stuff here on this, fwiw. The point about fully transitioned women actually being at a physical disadvantage, is interesting, imho. And I'll leave it at that. If I've offended you @oakey , my genuine apologies. We differ, clearly, but that's no reason for me to insult...

The thing about changing facilities is a fair point and that would have to be carefully considered. It's not insurmountable though, is it? Clearly some teams already have trans women who have transitioned, how has it worked there? I think women, like men, clearly have differing views on all...

Err... because we're talking about access to football and other sports for women. When it comes to that specifically, your biggest concern seems to be trans women - is that fair to say, or am I misrepresenting you?

If you think for a moment I'm suggesting that anyone's safety shouldn't be a consideration, then you're dead wrong. But it's nowhere near as black and white as is being suggested, imho. And I discussed exactly this thread with my wife yesterday, to get her opinion on it. It's fair to say it...

I think you're putting words in my mouth there, is it unreasonable to ask why if you're so concerned about girls access to sport you'd be so focussed on this single issue? I'm not trying to minimise it, but I think it's also not unreasonable to point out that you've highlighted a few individual...

All I can say mate, is that I accept Oakey has strong opinions on the matter, but it's not unfair to challenge her politely, is it? I'm also not claiming that I'm right either, I don't think this is an area with any easy answers. Just being a woman doesn't necessarily make Oakey right either...