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If we’d have kept King and had a proper manager we would have stayed up that season, we were still fairly close with an awful side and a manager who wasn’t a manager

Yeah and I’ll start panicking if there’s a massive fire sale between now and Wednesday but as things stand I’m still relatively confident

Come off it man, in 2011/12 we had a chief scout who had never managed before playing Clive Platt and Roy O’Donovan up front This season we have probably our second best ever manager coaching Gyökeres and Godden

Every other season third kits have been released October/November time I reckon they’ve brought that forward this season to try and scrape some money together after we’ve had to postpone three matches and put a good chunk of money towards the pitch repairs

I’d say for a side that have consistently spent as heavily as they have since relegation, yes they are a poor side

Where did I say that? I just take half the stuff I read on here with a pinch of salt, if you were an outsider reading this forum you’d think the club was about to go to the wall any minute

It’s not arrogant to think we won’t get relegated, yes when we get going - Ie when we get into the rhythm of playing consistently

According to twitter, self proclaimed ITK’s and this forum we’ve already lost Hamer, O’Hare and Gyökeres this summer in addition to our manager and now Hyam:ROFLMAO:

We’ve played twice, other than 25 mins I thought we navigated a pretty tough trip to Sunderland quite well and if we hadn’t have pressed self destruct we’d have beat Millwall convincingly When we get going we’ll be nowhere near the bottom 3

Likely to be relegated? I don’t think there’s a chance we go down myself but each to their own

Offer is there for a £20 charity wager with you both that we will finish above Stoke this season then - One of the worst sides I saw us play last season and when fully fit, other than their goalkeeper there’s not one of their players I’d have in our side

Middlesbrough just paid the same figure for Matt Clarke who is younger and as good as Hyam if not better so 2.5m would probably seem fair

Thats not what I said though is it - Stoke are a poor side and them being in a relegation battle isn’t exactly an ‘out there’ call

Don’t really see what’s so funny about someone saying Stoke will be in a relegation battle to be fair I think their squad is dire and he’s right, they have been on a year on year decline since they were relegated

So if your arsed about travelling why take the Middlesbrough job in the first place He’d be crazy to leave there for Stoke

I don’t get how Wilder is the favourite, he’s been well backed at Boro and they’ll click into gear in no time in my opinion Stoke would be a downwards step for him yet alone a sideways one

We were literally playing in another City with probably the second lowest number of season ticket holders in the clubs history when Sunderland approached him

Not necessarily true, Stoke have done what Derby and Sheff Weds did and sold their ground to the owners Obviously Bet365 are never going to shaft Stoke City but they own the ground

Price has dropped from 9/1 to7/1 BUT is Now behind Dyche, Joey Barton and Chris Wilder (very strange) in the running on Sky

I’d feel quite let down if Robins went to Stoke to be quite honest All that work to go to Stoke a few games into a season would be a bitter pill to take - I’d have understood him going to Norwich last season when he was heavily linked cause it’s a club close to his heart and a genuine step up...