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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You asked me if I was willing to overturn a democratic vote with another, I said yes. That has been established and an increasing amount of others want to have the final day on a Brexit deal. It’s not about reversing the original referendum. This is about breaking a constitutional crisis by...
  2. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I thought my posts made it clear where I stand on the issue of a second referendum. But, I’m not going to leave my words open to interpretation.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Actually, it’s the Brexit wing of the party that has been the staunchest critics of May’s deal. I respect your opinion that we should leave without a deal. But, no one voted for a no-deal Brexit in 2016, even the staunchest of Brexiteers have to acknowledge that. Imagine if Brexit goes badly...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, 100%. I would not be in favour of reversing Brexit without the public’s consent.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’re right, they wouldn’t, but they occupy a small % of the vote, and an even smaller % of parliamentary seats. Whereas the Conservative and Labour would accept it completely to avoid alienating its core support. So, in that event, the Lib Dems/Greens could create a niche for applying for EU...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Old ground and you have taken the argument out of context. The larger issue at hand here is that the Government is deadlocked and the premise of a second referendum is to break that deadlock by deferring the question back to the electorate. You clearly want Brexit at any cost, bad deal, or no...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Agreed. About two-thirds (2/3) of immigration is non-EU anyway, and most of EU immigration is more professional European economic migrants that benefit the economy as opposed to hordes of Eastern European unskilled workers flooding the labour market. Even Nigel Farage explicitly said in many...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You're entitled to that opinion, but it seems more and more people think it's a good idea -- 54% of those polled would be 'screaming babies', in fact, some of them would've voted leave in 2016. 64% of those polled favours Remain if May's deal is voted down in Parliament, and there's definitely...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Government forecasts can hardly be called 'inventions', including forecasts made by this Government who is negotiating this Brexit deal. That's just silly talk. A second referendum is actually in your interests. If you voted for Brexit, why do you want a Remainer negotiating the withdrawal deal...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Here we go again... Tell me how a referendum is undemocratic? You can't, unless you want to make an argument against referendums as a whole. Which, if you did, undermines your premise that the 2016 referendum is the be all and end all. The issue of EU membership won't go away whether or not we...
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    Declan Drysdale

    Seems like a good signing to make, hopefully, another Hyam!
  12. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Nope. MPs are elected to represent their constituents, they've been elected to serve a term of 5 years and since the mandate for Brexit is unclear hence opposition to May's bill from Eurosceptics and Europhiles in the Commons. All that is needed to justify the legal basis of a second referendum...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Wales, unbelievably, also voted to Leave. Agreed with the rest. This rhetoric that a second referendum is somehow a 'betrayal' of British democracy is Orwellian doublespeak. A referendum is a public vote and by definition cannot be considered 'undemocratic'. If the public is committed to Brexit...
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    The Curious Case of Jordy Hiwula

    At this moment in time, I doubt both Willis and Burge will leave. Burge is probably the more likely to leave given a club like Wigan haven’t had a permanent goalie starting in 2 seasons and higher teams may want a sub goalkeeper. As for Willis, Rotherham is probably the highest placed team who’s...
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    Burge, Willis and Davies

    McNulty is in a position where he may be moved on after 6 months. He probably won’t be staying in the Championship. I’d probably wager that McNulty was happier playing week in, week out for us than his time at Reading. If we finish in the top 9 this season, there’s a decent chance we could be...
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    Burge, Willis and Davies

    Perhaps all 3 players are reviewing their options and there isn’t anything bad with that. Frankly, I’m unsure as to whether or not Burge and Willis could go to Championship clubs and start week in, week out. They may be better off staying for an extra season and try to get promoted with us. As...
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    The Curious Case of Jordy Hiwula

    From what Robins’ has said recently, the primary focus this window is the loan market, presumably because we spent a fair bit in the summer. He did say he wanted to ‘wheel and deal’, so we’ll have to wait and see what happens there. The Portsmouth example is a good one, and as I mentioned in...
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    The Curious Case of Jordy Hiwula

    Chaplin is 21 and if we’d spent 500k on a 25-28 year old striker the claims levelled against him would be a lot more valid. Chaplin could have one good season of scoring 15+ goals and we’d be able to sell him for more a lot more than 500k. When buying young players, most of the fee is based on...
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    The Curious Case of Jordy Hiwula

    Stoke have just been relegated from the Prem. We’ve just been promoted and have a young team. Totally different contexts. At our worst, we were 14th and still about 3 points off 9th. We also had some rough home games in Luton, P’boro and Accrington (6th at the time) and lost once. Just two...
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    The Curious Case of Jordy Hiwula

    A more appropriate title for this thread: The Curious Case of Coventry City Fans: Why Do They Make Knee-Jerk Reactions?
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