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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Considering 3 of your sources say pretty much the exact same thing, I get the impression you've not actually read the articles. But, let's get to the crux of this argument, Ian Austin, and Neil Coyle, two MPs mentioned in your sources, they're still sitting as Labour MPs. So, why has Woodcock...
  2. Mucca Mad Boys

    Squad Next Season

    Willis was 23 when the season started so we should get compensation should he leave. Personally, I can't see both Willis and Burge leaving. It's a possibility but these players should see the opportunity to get promoted into the Championship with us as neither of these players is likely to start...
  3. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The norm for these kinds of issues is to deal with it internally using the party processes and mechanisms. The fact of the matter is, your MP is breaking the norm in asking for an independent inquiry. Whilst I'm not saying he is fundamentally wrong in asking for that, it is breaking ranks with...
  4. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s funny because all the other MPs from other parties who faced similar allegations were investigated internally by their own parties. That is the norm! There’s zero hard evidence that it would’ve been a kangaroo court. I’m taking your own advice and treating a politician’s words with...
  5. Mucca Mad Boys

    Squad Next Season

    I can’t imagine anyone wouldn’t want to get back-to-back promotions. But, is our team good enough for playoffs? Probably not. Realistically, there needs to be a plan in place to get promoted within 2-3 seasons, in my view. The majority of our squad is under contract, so I’m not particularly...
  6. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There’s multiple allegations of sexual harassment against multiple MPs across the major parties. Labour, Tory, Lib Dem and the SNP.
  7. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A bit more evidence is needed than ‘he said, she said’, don’t you think? Considering the accusations are from a former aide, between the years 2014 to 2016. This started before Corbyn’s rise to power and before Momentum got off the ground. Therefore, I don’t suspect it’s a witch-hunt lead by...
  8. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Has he actually reported himself to an independent body to investigate these allegations? He’s not my MP, and frankly, there’s not a lot of information about him. What I seem to understand to be the case is that he’s taking the General Secretary of Labour Party to court to try and force an...
  9. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    To echo @skybluetony176, if there was no proof, surely he wouldn’t have to fear an investigation because he would be found innocent. He may been disgusted by antisemitism (as is any reasonable person) wherever it appears, he may also disagree with Corbyn politically too. But, he wouldn’t have...
  10. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    His position on the vote has nothing to do with anything? You said he left the party because of Corbyn, that is falsified information. He was also a Remainer, which by your logic, would make me defend him. These kind of allegations are always dealt with internally with the party, Woodcock...
  11. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They weren’t kicked out of the party, they left it. Big difference. Tale the example of Jared O’Mara, he was caught making homophobic as well as comments online in 2009 and earlier. He was reinstated into the party, but chose to resign the whip anyway. I actually agree with you, people should...
  12. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The result of the by-election will be interesting, yes.
  13. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Good question, you’d have to ask the complainant. Equally, you could ask why didn’t they face allegations if they were innocent? I’ll reiterate: they’re innocent until proven guilty in my eyes. This is detracting from the issue that they didn’t leave because of Corbyn, because party leaders...
  14. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Parliament could vote to revoke Article 50 if it came to that. Honestly, Theresa May is constantly snookering herself and that’s the biggest hinderance to Brexit at the moment. She really should just call another election, as it can’t get any worse for her even if the Tories lost seats — the...
  15. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’re right actually, I got mixed up with a few MPs who are now ‘independent’ and their circumstances. Ivan Lewis was also suspended for similar allegations than Woodcock and he also left the party. Investigations against them won’t be conducted by the Labour Party if they’ve resigned the whip...
  16. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If a deal can’t get agreed and Parliament moves against a no deal scenario, what’s next? I’m pretty sure when we had this discussion earlier in the thread, you believed the Government should announce its intention to leave without a deal if a deal cannot agree. Since Parliament is moving to...
  17. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So the allegations into his alleged sexual harassment of a colleague has nothing to do with it whatsoever? Woodcock is the one who politicised the issue around a Corbyn-led Labour in a classic ‘deflect attention away from me’ manoeuvre. Ask yourself, how you would feel about this had you not...
  18. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you really think that proposal will pass through Parliament? Let’s not kid ourselves, it wouldn’t. My proposal or a so-called ‘People’s Vote’ would pass through Parliament if a major party would lend its weight to it. Tories aren’t going for a CU, so Labour wont support it. The Government...
  19. Mucca Mad Boys

    Chaplin

    Have you seen how far we press up the pitch when we get the ball? If a striker didn’t come deep the options for Kelly and Bayliss become limited. Several times Doyle, and now Kelly have been caught out because there’s no options for them when they get the ball deep. We play good football and...
  20. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Why not have a two stage referendum? Remain vs Leave and if Leave won (if it is truly the ‘will of people’, it will), then a run off between ‘no deal’ and whatever the deal is on the table. If there’s a referendum, a Remain option will be on the ballot, we all know that.
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