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Exactly. Cannot judge what has come before it. The Checkatrade Trophy final being a case in point. Look at the attendances in the competition prior to that. The fact it is a cup game against much higher opposition will appeal to many to come along.

How odd for him to come out with stuff like 'I allowed them [Spurs] to self-destruct so all the media, all the people in the world went: 'Tottenham lost the title.'' And also ..... "Some referees would have played by the book; Tottenham would have been down to seven or eight players and...

Really don't get the 10,000-12,000 thinking. Stoke will bring a large following. 15,000 I think is quite a reasonable conclusion to come to. City vs a Premier club and they are only an hour or so straight up the M6.

Going to ram it down your throat when he gets to 20 goals and is player of the season. :)

Yeah, surely 15,000-16,000. Has to be.

Difference in levels? Are they a full time club?

Man U v Derby? Surely not. Much more appealing games to be found in the draw.

Well if it's the weekend I think it is I am busy picking up old dog poo from our back garden. It's all scheduled in and everything and I'm fed up of all the squelching in the dark in the middle of the night.

It is a West Midlands derby though. Not been a big game in the past, but then we have been starved of such high profile games for a long time.

They only typed sparkymcnulty because the Beeb can't get away with sparkymcwankty.

The candidates for TV coverage are I would say: Liverpool v Everton - dead cert Brighton v Palace - maybe City v Stoke - good chance Forest v Arsenal - dead cert Forest Green /Exeter v West Brom - good chance Fleetwood/Hereford v Leicester - very good chance and dead cert if it is Hereford...

Yeah, of course, was just talking about it not having to be 3 on Saturday because of Wasps on Sunday. Plenty of options to slot it in.

More likely to field some seasoned veterans (aged 13-16) rather than the under 4's though, Johnny.

Could be a Saturday lunch or early evening though if they were considering for TV.

More than 11,600, matesx I would have thought. It is a Premier club. My guess is 15,000. All depends on how many Stoke bring.

We might get lucky, but I think probably not.

We have often finished games poorly for sure.

A bit underwhelming. Would expect a crowd of maybe 16,000- 17,000 perhaps. Stoke should bring a lot

Beavon should have scored from the same header too apparently.

Gruden could follow post season. I do really what him to be a success, cos he seems a nice guy. The record is rather poor though here.