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In an ideal world, we’d have at least started actually building on a project like this. Now we have something of a ‘fans group’ with @mark82 and @Sky Blue Pete having access to Joy and the club. Hopefully this leads to constructive dialog and accountability In delivering this project.

I agree it’s unacceptable that it’s taken 6 years to announce a ‘potential partnership’. Yet, the announcement is the most significant progress made on a new stadium to date. Now, I’m also of the view that the announcement, in isolation, is pretty meaningless. Therefore, the next year or two...

Knowing our luck, the tape would somehow and almost certainly ‘accidentally’ end up in flames...

Genuine question. Are there any penalties for breaking the St Andrews rent agreement in-season? If the bridges haven’t been completely burned (Real risk of this), I imagine both parties will continue to talk throughout.

Both of Wasps statements have been very, very vague. The fact that Boddy went into specifics, namely claiming he spoke to his Wasps counterpart, Vaughan, not once, but twice! This makes me suspect that Boddy is telling the truth. Especially since he is putting his own name on said claims. This...

The screw seems to be turning on Wasps, hopefully in the coming days we get closer to proper clarification of each side. My impression is that Wasps are hiding behind the NDA. As @chiefdave mentioned, they could have at least indicated a willingness to waive the NDA if other parties are also...

Technically, you’re right about the SISU promising to waive the NDA. It’s easy for them to say ‘sure, we’ll drop it’ - without considering other parties What has peaked my interest is the comparative willingness for CCFC to lay all the ‘facts’ bare. Wasps could’ve said ‘we’re willing to drop...

I agree with a lot of this. But, Wasps do have a lot to lose too. Their finances are poor and the bond they used to finance the RICOH is maturing in 2022. Having a tenant in the RICOH probably boosts the bond price and gives them a boost to their own finances. In fairness, it doesn’t plug the...

My line of thinking is that an asset, the RICOH in this case, is worth more with a tenant, than without. Especially with added business the football fans would generate for surrounding businesses. For example, the casino.

Until the NDA is waived, we’ll never truly know. But, it doesn’t really make sense for them to that since even with reduced capacities, we’d still be losing more money at St Andrews.

These are my thoughts too. Even if slightly conspiratorial in nature. In another thread, I eluded to this in a very vague way. With the toxic relationship CCFC and CCC have, it is unlikely the CCC would facilitate any planning permission in their jurisdiction that would make an alternative...

Exactly. Demonstrates the point about how obstructive councils slow the projects down. It’s worth noting that the Brighton stadium site had construction that lay in two separate council jurisdictions. Lewes obviously delaying the construction. My point about supportive councils was directed at...

It’s not exactly like we’ve got a supportive local council to help us in the pursuit of building a new stadium though, is it? With the whole UoW thing, since they’ve had to get planning permission from CCC for infrastructure projects. Isn’t it a possibility that the club and UoW needed to wait...

@SBT Still think the CCC would allow the club to build a new stadium inside its jurisdiction?

The site for Brighton’s AMEX stadium was found in 1998-99. The stadium was completed in 2011. I’ve not said it’s acceptable that it’s taken this long. We are where we are and looking at the past doesn’t really do anything for us. Sarcastic comments are one thing, but at least there’s something...

Planning a stadium isn’t exactly an easy task that can be completed overnight. The RICOH itself took 8 years from planning to construction. That’s with a local council that supported it in this process. The plans are out there now, and if there’s no progress on this made, then we hold the club...

How long did it take to build the RICOH from planning to completion? The plan for us to move from HR to the RICOH was announced in 1997, construction began in 1999 and completed in 2005. That’s 8 years and that is with the cooperation of the CCC. With respect, you’re skirting the issue of...

We don’t know of any sticking points in negotiations and so on, but it’s out there now. The two parties have got to crack on with it now.

Based on what evidence? The relationship between the two parties is completely broken. Now the announcement is made, there’s no excuses for having no updates. We cannot argue about the future, as it is yet to happen. As it happens, I’ve been vocal of the need for all of us to be sceptical and...

If you agree on that, then you can see why the club refuses to sign up to an indemnity and ceasing of legal action in 2019, and probably in 2020 also.