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Wasn't just the timing was it? Wasn't it that the owner putting in money didn't count towards income as far as the bond conditions were concerned. That's one of the things they voted on in that meeting I think, to change the conditions of the bond.

Love stuff like this, little glimpse behind the scenes.

Correct but the winner at this point probably won't mean too much as the other side will just appeal. Eventually, potentially years yet, we'll get to the end of the whole process and someone has to win.

That would be down to the judge as there's not a whole lot of similar cases for him to use as a comparison. It could be anything from a slap on the wrist for the council to the whole deal being unwound and done again in the correct manner. Two extremes that are unlikely. More likely is that...

There's a simple solution to that. A term of the lease to tie the club and stadium together. You can create a lease that is to all intents and purposes the freehold, by giving it a length longer than the life of the stadium say 250 years for example!

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What's the America's equivalent of the Dublin agreement? You're ignoring the fact that they aren't turning up to cross illegally, they are trying to present themselves at legal entry points and make their claim there. They are being blocked from doing so which is actually in breach of...

What loan? We're talking about if Wasps go bust now, the loan is already repaid and I couldn't care less about bondholders losing money. Lease reverts to the council with a chance to do things properly this time and sell a long lease or freehold without the purchaser needing to be in tens of...

Doesn't seem to apply in the Championship, just had a look at Villa and they've scrapped theirs as well. The replacement is you pay £40 to get access to a priority booking.

IMO a SISU win would mean we get rid of them quicker so that would be the preference. The valuations Wasps have had done for the bonds state that they are reliant on information supplied by Wasps, we know from the issues with their accounts how accurate that is. Wasps did seem to be too...

Robins getting business done early. At this rate we'll have pretty much the full squad ready for the first day of training let alone the first match.

I think you'd struggle to find any non-German in Europe who wasn't happy they lost and got knocked out. Doesn't make it racist. They are a rival and the vast majority of football supporters want their rivals to fail, especially when its someone who has historically done well. And it means an...

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No judgement today but not back in court tomorrow? Does that mean the judges don't think its an open and shut case and want to dig deeper in to the documents provided?

How is it a theory? The court case is over the amount Wasps paid, there exists an independent valuation for that. Surely if that valuation shows the price you paid was in line with the valuation you put that in front of the judge and its case closed. If those that had the valuation carried...

But on the open market what has greater value, ACL with a 38 lease or ACL with a 250 year lease?

That's my thinking. If the valuation backed up the sale price they would get it in front of the judge ASAP. Once you've got an independent valuation giving a price at or lower than the sale price SISUs case collapses. Which then makes you wonder why they don't want to provide that valuation...

The fact that Wasps purchased ACL and that some of the valuations we know of, particularly those used by Wasps for the bond are just for the lease is understood by pretty much everyone isn't it? Its just shorthand that people don't explicitly state it every time they are talking about...

Theres at least one valuation from prior to the sale that Wasps have refused to provide. You'd think one of the first things that would be asked for by the judge is to have all the valuations that were done prior to or after the transaction to be made available to them so they can see exactly...

The whole reason this is back in court is because the judge that put this through to appeal said they were linked but the previous judge had viewed them as separate.