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That's what I meant just didn't word it very well!

I guess Peterborough will bring a lot, could be down to that? Don't they not get on with Northampton, maybe their fans are going to come along for a punch up.

Clearly football doesn't follow the same model due to it's history, clubs have been in the same location for generations and are not supposed to be permitted to move according to regulations. Given that pretty much everywhere has a team this makes sense as any team moving would be encroaching on...

Sorry, I'm not seeing how these are remotely the same situation. For a start hockey is a sport based on a franchise model and teams moving. Look at the Elite League, it's only been going since 2003 and despite only having 10 teams only 5 of those teams have been there since the start! From what...

Technically that can't be too difficult to do. In some sports, particularly in the US where they have revenue sharing arrangements (the richer teams subsidise the poorer teams) they have to submit actual and paid figures (i.e.: total number of people there and how many actually paid to get in)...

They should have done it the SISU way and moved to a much smaller stadium with lower revenues :D The difference would be you would expect a football club to have a long term lease. A hockey team probably runs season to season and may even rent on a game by game basis. I'm guessing you're...

Is that still available anywhere? I think the thing that comes through here are that Ice Hockey is more of a franchise sport with teams regularly starting up and ceasing to exist or moving. A quick google seems to indicate that the first Barons team was actually in Birmingham and then moved to...

But when they were in Solihull was that ever a permanent thing? It sounds like the plan was to use a new rink in Birmingham but when that didn't happen they had to use Solihull as an interim venue while finding somewhere of a size in line with the rest of the league. In terms of revenue all...

So essentially the Blaze were a new team who happened to play in Solihull while waiting for a new rink, Coventry coming into the frame when the plans in Birmingham fell through. That doesn't really seem like franchising to me.

What actually happened? I remember when I was a kid there was Solihull Barons. Then when I moved back from Canada with an interest in hockey there was the Blaze and still the Barons so who did we move?

No one knows if this is true. They've claimed they've 'moved on' from the Ricoh so they aren't going back there. They claim there will be a new ground but there's no site or plans and I'm pretty sure they've said the new stadium will be outside the city so that's not really bringing the club...

What's the weather like up there? If it's anything like down here they'll be stuggling to get 1000. Can't see many away fans coming and we won't have season ticket holders to rely on to boost the numbers.

Unless they're going to knock the stadium part down 'moving on' isn't really too much of an issue is it? They may stop maintaining the pitch and may book other things that would impact of availabilty for use on matchdays (as they already have with the gaming thing) but surely if the stadium is...

I can't think of any scenario beneficial to the football club that requires ownership of the freehold. The only benefit I can see is for SISU. If they can obtain the freehold at below market value they can debt load against the security of the freehold and use that money to pay off some / all of...

how many is it including caretakers?

The FA / FL will most likley do nothing as usual but it would actually be a very easy thing for them to prevent. Presumably the golden share names Hull City so they should just tell the owner that if he changes the name the new club won't have a share and will go to the bottom of the pyramid.

So your argument is that if we ignore all the big games where the crowd would be too big for the proposed stadium the ground will be big enough?

The reason given by SISU for needing this new ground is we need access to more revenues. Since moving to the Ricoh there have been 54 games where the attendance has been greater than will be possible in the proposed new stadium, that's a lot of lost revenue in ticket sales alone. That is before...

if we're getting a 60 acre site that should cut down the options so can those who live locally suggest sites that would be that big and not in green belt?

that's only the top 6, if you look at all attendances that would be too big for the proposed new ground by season then you get this: 2005/06 - 16 2006/07 - 12 2007/08 - 11 2008/09 - 5 2009/10 - 3 2010/11 - 3 2011/12 - 3 2012/13 - 1 Actually when you look at what has happened...