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How many more offences are worth it to send a tough message? What’s the evidence a tough message will reduce offending? Are we really claiming pedos are pedos because they’ve got the OK from society? The fact is everyone should be equal in front of the law, not extra sentences for blokes off...

Feels like short termism. Particularly from the council. This isn’t an Aldi it’s a major landmark in the city for decades.

I wasn’t the one that made the comparison. It was a point about why you can’t compare different acts in a simple way. There are many factors to sentencing and likelihood to reoffend will be a major one. The data show locking up first time offenders like Edward’s for a short time increases the...

I know mate, I’ve got a couple of good friends who were abused as kids and it’s basically tainted their whole life. All have drug problems. All have mental health problems. Same as the people I know who were raped or had close family murdered. Sentences just seem massively inappropriate for all...

More if someone says they definitely will commit a crime again they’re less likely to go free.

You don’t need to tell me mate. I’ll be paying for my representation for another couple of years yet. I was very lucky to have access to credit to pay what was needed. And we’re still talking well into five figures.

JSO/XR’s whole thing is that they’re “arrestables” and that they want a custodial sentence and are willing to get one for their cause. It seems a little silly to complain when that happens. I don’t like how the justice system is getting what politics got and it’s just “everyone’s a corrupt pedo...

Not everyone thinks we’ve gone in the right direction the last couple of years. In fact on the pitch we’ve gone backwards and that’s all that matters to most.

Why did we stop building in proper building materials? Always think when one of these plastic and steel buildings goes up it’s going to look like shite in less than ten years.

I am not the judge in either case but I assume that firstly JSO have been very clear that they won’t stop is a big reason they got locked away.

Or that in those cases a custodial sentence was judged to be more/less effective than in others. Sentencing isn’t just a list of crimes in order of how much we hate them.

You’re acting like Trump is the first world leader to have threats against him.

Blame the FBI it’s their take.

Some of us are. Some of us are ranting about the political chip on their shoulder. The point is this isn’t an abnormal sentence for this type of crime. Whether the sentencing guidelines are wrong is another question and one pretty much everyone in this thread probably agrees on.

Capacity really shouldn’t be a consideration. I can appreciate the theory about first time offenders being less likely to reoffend, but equally the gut feeling from pretty much everyone is that the punishment should be loss of liberty. It’s a tough one. So many sentences seem very low. Rapists...

Can you prove any of it incorrect or are you just crying cos it says things you don’t like?

I don’t get it. My best guess is rather dark and it’s that there’s so many caught looking at pictures we literally can’t lock them all up.

Cos of woke. Well wanting them to be awake in school the next day.

Good thread on the sentencing

And I’m sure her regret will be reflected in her sentencing. I don’t agree with Pete and think Edward’s should be in prison, but I think he was talking to the fact he’s stopped before he was caught.