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I think Robins recruited well though, so that gave us optimism for the season.

Exactly. We don't have that optimism around the club. We have been down amongst the dead men now for many, many years and within a spiral of decline.

I haven't advocated sacking Robins, but he needs to do better. Something away from home just isn't right.

I totally agree. Don't get the logic that if we don't go up this season we will have another good chance next. Not at all certain. I think it could be a number of seasons down here and that is going to result in more fans lost from the club. It's a dire scenario that could easily manifest...

We do keep losing though where we expect to win. Every time we win I am believing that we will follow that up with another positive result. Why shouldn't we expect to avoid defeat at Forest Green and Morecambe?

Plus we don't know what sort of deal Wasps will give us. That could greatly effect what sort of budget we have to play with. Plus if we don't go up do we believe we will still be able to hang on to McNulty and Jones and Bayliss etc?

Okay, let's say the logic there of the 8th in the league budget is correct, what do you think it will be next season? Crowds will surely dwindle further and therefore it would be even tougher still for us to compete.

That's why I was happyish when we got kicked out the Checkatrade.

Exactly my thoughts too. And then next year we will be bemoaning why we didn't take the opportunity this year and analysing where it all went wrong.

Yes, but we then have the four clubs that will come down from League One in the mix. Of the 4 that went down last season both the City and Swindon are right in there challenging for promotion from League Two this year. Could well have at least two more challenging next season from the clubs...

Lots of TV competitions still ask for answers on postcards to be honest.

Wonder if it might be an idea to arm stewards with GoPro cameras. They would have clear evidence then and footage could be passed on to the away team's club for them to investigate.

Yeah, but it's also huge because of the big crowd expected. Turn it on and win and we may have won over many new young fans.

You both have the same missus?

That's disgraceful and also incredibly dumb and nonsensical chant. Were they reported at all?

Robins said he had no idea on Grimmer's, but thought that maybe Stokes was just a tweak. He wasn't at all certain though.

Ooh, contentious.

Daniels is injured as well? Wow! That IS a curse. Players who are not even on our books are getting injured for us now.

Forest Green brought 10 players in, in the January window. Didn't do them any harm yesterday.

Yeah, 5 points behind doesn't appear that bad when you just look at it in isolation, but after Tuesday we were just 1 point behind behind 3rd and 2 points behind 2nd and now we are 5 points behind 2nd and 4 points behind 3rd. Just shows how a single defeat changes things and the problem...