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Yea that’s fair I guess my point is I’m not sure being firm will work and could backfire. The examples provided show it can work but currently it feels like the stakes are higher and the situation more delicate.

Maybe, the risk is he retaliates or it’s used as justification for him to take whatever action he wanted to do anyway.

It looks like she’s looking over her shoulder to reverse then goes to move forwards and he’s walked in front of the car as she looks forwards. He shoots immediately causing her to involuntarily accelerate harder until the car crashes. Someone is shouting “get out of the car” but in the other...

He’s a diplomatic nightmare. How do you handle him? They’ve got to try an put him off without getting on his bad side and/or end NATO.

They just seem to approach anyone who could be an immigrant and start harassing them. Seems to be little investigation, policy, or training.

Are ICE trained in law enforcement?

Unfortunately, for some people, I don’t think it matters how bad it gets. Will it even make any of his supporters have a rethink? I doubt it.

That the Tory government didn’t make this many u-turns and unforced errors in 14 years. I mean the Johnson government was chaos and the Truss government imploded in weeks.

Sorry but that’s bollocks. Labour have not been great but it’s all standard stuff we’re used to.

If one already exists there seems no reason why more can’t, especially considering the justification and NATO link.

This surely just requires NATO cooperation and US bases there, which already exist?

Are you fucking kidding me

It worked pretty well for a good while for a sham. Of course it wasn't the ideal and countries tested the limits an were rightly criticised for it, as the US is being now.

You don’t seem to have understood my post at all.

Well yeah but this is people’s frustration with Trump. The US backed the post WW2 system with their military and in return got lots of stable trading partners. The construct had given us decades of relative peace and prosperity and is being dismantled by morons. The worst thing is the Russians...

Draining the treasury, I mean swamp.

The level of corruption is mind boggling. The crypto stuff alone is staggering amounts of money and all in plain sight. It does make you think they must be confident the law will never apply to them…

You’d think agents would be calling us really.

I take your point but the Epstein stuff is already out there. The distraction would be how they drag it out and manipulate the situation.

Just to make sure I get your point on the first para you mean influencers essentially do the dead cat theory thing are exist for that job? I don’t follow your point about the UK? interesting theory re Epstein, most people look at it the other way round but it makes a lot of sense.