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Well that depends, go to every game, which I know isn't feasible for everyone, it certainly isn't for me, and you wouldn't be far away after 4 years. That's what the people in the top tier gave done.

Probably just about 200 available with cup games. Might be a bit more this season with the amount of midweek away games.

As I said in an earlier post there is a scenario, probably if we get to the PL, where they will have to put tickets out to ballot, but we're miles away from that in the championship.

Good luck to him.

Probably about 3 or 4 years, the same as it took the rest of us. And people at the top of the pyramid won't be there forever, they die off, they stop going, as someone said there are probably 6-700 absolute diehards (of which I'm not one).

Haji hasn't been stinking the place out for 3 months because of hurtful comments though, that letting him off far too easily. Look at the comments Lampard made about him in his CET interview mid to late September when he came back from international duty. If your manager eulogising about you...

That's when you introduce a ballot for a certain percentage of tickets. But people suggesting we do it now when we're a million miles away from that scenario are taking the piss.

Yeah, I meant how much do you think it goes on? I personally don't know anyone that buys specifically to sell on. I'm sure it happens but how bad is the issue?

How big a problem is people selling tickets on? I've no doubt it happens but how much of an issue is it? There's a lot of noise around the high points given for cheap cup tickets and I think we might see a stop to this though was genuinely surprised at how many fans were in attendance Saturday.

If that 6-700 becomes 16-1700 we probably need to look at doing something different, until then, it's fine as it is.

Maybe we should make 20% of ST holders give up their ST for one midland derby a year so a few thousand day trippers can attend for free

I haven't, just saw the article and the EMC incident came to mind so they may not be that comparable

We don't need to, we routinely have games go to general sale.

So people who don't put the hard yards in should hsve given parity when it comes to ticket distribution? And they don't have to select games such as this, there's plenty of games they could attend to build points, but some only want to know when it's blues or Leicester. And I'm generally in...

The figures for the amount of games that get to general sale or fairly low point brackets have been put up on this forum numerous times. It's easy to get tickets for a large number of games if people really want to. But the reality is there are people who want the same privileges as those that...

That shouldn't happen. But the games not sold out, people bitching about nonexistent closed shops have a chance to actually earn some points.

How many of them moan about the points system when they miss out for Leicester, Blues etc? Or refer to away games as a closed shop when they quite clearly aren't?

Following on from the dubious assault on EMC https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2ljl57ge7o

This is it really They've both had more than one spell where they've been awful, they've both suffered abuse that's crossed the line as a result.

It's grim. You should always support players during the game.