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Stick some student flats next to the old folks, that's work out fine ;)

Leon Clarkes Dad was murdered on NYE http://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/14180622.Dad_of_Shakers_striker_Leon_Clarke_dies__sparking_police_probe Horrible thing to happen at any time but what a way to start your new year. Thoughts with Leon.

I'm going for a lie down to recover from the shock :D

I must be reading it wrong then. Is 85 units = 85 houses? Is there enough land for 85 houses, a car park, leisure facilities and a frontage to the Butts? Also allowing room for the Butts and its possible expansion?

I think as far as the Butts in concerned I'm going to work on the basis that it would, with some creative architecture, be possible but that until we hear something from the club to say its happening its not really worth worrying about too much.

You usually just get the next ticket off the pile for away games and then 9/10 when you turn up the stewards say sit where you like.

If, as has been suggested, the club is currently self sufficient then what do they have to gain by giving it away? They can keep hold of the club as long as they like, not put another penny in, and hope something happens that leads to a situation where they can get some of their money back. Can...

I would say Armstrong. As much as anything Wilson has suffered a pretty major injury. We don't yet know if that will have any long term impact on his game.

They can't so if and when someone takes over they will make a pence in the pound offer as you say. That's why its a bit stupid when a big fuss is made over a £1 offer. The key is not the sale price but what happens to the debt. How much is wiped out, how much is paid off during the takeover...

I would have thought the chap that runs CRFC would need to explain what was happening at the Butts. He's the one who has said that he is in the process of puchasing land around the stadium with a view to expansion. Remember all CCFC have said about the Butts is 'no comment'

This sort of team spirit can only help when trying to retain players. Especially if they think the club is on the up.

So back to the original point is there any actual evidence that SISU are taking millions out of the club?

We've been here before. There's 2 options. Either the value in the prospectus is dodgy or serious questions need to be asked about the sale price. The 'its worth more now because Wasps are here' is rubbish. Wasps average crowd is lower than ours and they play far less games a year yet someone...

I'll second that, anything you aren't sure on get a second opinion. Don't worry about offending anyone or causing trouble. Good luck mate.

If you read the actual valuation report it is explicitly stated that it is the value it should achieve should it be sold.

Isn't that how they nearly ended up going bust in the first place? Massively overvalued their share in Loftus Road, gained credit off the back of the valuation then couldn't pay the bills when they were called out on it.

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Why have Sky got so many NFL presenters? Don't they just pipe in the footage from a US feed? If we're talking sports presenters Renee Young is #1 for me.

You do realise there's more than one company in the group so one of the companies going into administration doesn't wipe the debt of all the other out. £2m ROI could be good or bad depending how you view what has been put in. If you think SISU have put nothing in its a fantastic return, if you...

15K will be a good effort I think. Especially as it sounds like they aren't bringing as many as you might expect as many are choosing their cup game over this.