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Yeah, but by the rules of the game that was clearly a foul on Kane. No interpretation to be had. The second one was less clear cut as Kane was pushing and pulling a bit too. They get away with it in other parts of the world. That doesn't mean it is right to do so and a number of the officials...

The VAR system should and can work in my opinion. Needs to be for obvious errors. Today was not an obvious error and was very subjective. Harry Kane's I would say was an obvious error. Anything that is not clear cut should be left to the ref.

That's the trouble. There must be loads of players who have passed away way before my time. I would have to guess at Clarrie Bourton too, simply based on the amount of goals he scored.

I have money (virtual money) on a Peru win or a draw. Thought Peru looked very good and were rather unlucky against Denmark and France do wobble at times. Definitely worth a punt.

My point is if they are saying he is wrong they should just overule him. They are not saying that though.

Not so sure. Surely the ref can have a look and see that nothing is different from how he saw it originally. They are not saying he is wrong, they are saying it is worth having another look. How was the French one now a handball?

Don't think they outranked him though anyway. Isn't the VAR officials job to relay to the ref that he may wish to take a closer look at things? The ref could still have not given the pen today. And if anyone says that is not realistic because of the pressure from the video refs, then we might...

Yeah, I may be wrong, but do think there are other clubs in Lancashire. Top of my head, what about Chorley?

Yup. He has to be bigger than that surely. Otherwise what's the point of a 23 man squad?

It is. I have been calling for clarification for sometime. The ones that are given when a ball is blasted at a player are quite ludicrous on occasion.

Hmm, I just saw it that the ref didn't see it properly. Simple as that.

We have just been talking about overreaction on social media of stuff on the Maddison thread and here we go again here. Someone on the BBC sports text has said that, that pen in the Denmark /Australia game was the softest penalty in footballing history. Seriously? People seriously need to get...

Hmm....I thought we were all calling for penalty against Stead after the game when we saw the replay and highlights. I am very much in the camp of it having to be deliberate, but can see why that one today was given and though it was harsh, I don't see it as an outrage or that controversial to...

Just the back of his head?

Why were we all calling for a pen in the home leg of the play-off against Notts County when the ball hit Stead's arm in the penalty area?

Second paragraph.

Yeah, there is the myth right there. It is not just about being deliberate. An arm being in an unnatural position is also a factor.

Fans is stupid! Based on that one, single Champions League game, some Liverpool fans were saying that the keeper, Karius, should never ever play for the club again. The overreaction to things these days in general is ridiculous to say the least.

Needs better consistency.

The Kane one however was just bad refereeing. I think the ref today just didn't see this one properly. Once he saw the replay his decision was almost instant.