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Well you can, CCC are saying in court the value of the lease, without CCFC as tennants, was £6.4m. How then can a 200 year extension, a deal done with CCFC as tennants, be worth £1m?

I don't see how they can say they had the lease valued at £6.4m with no rent and over £10m with £400K rent and then say the sale price to Wasps was correct. That's even before you consider the huge lease extension given to Wasps. And that valuation is only the value of the football club being...

Don't think they have, doesn't it pass to the bondholders now?

Isn't that the council's own fault for not having the lease terms set out in a manner that would allow them to reclaim the lease? Found the question from the judge about the amount CCC had put into ACL interesting. If CCC put nothing in why did it matter if ACL went bust and they got nothing out?

Been out of the office all morning, just catching up and was about to say the same. If it was irrelevant yesterday if it was a holiday or strike why are CCC now basing their whole arguement around it being a rent strike which put ACL in danger of going under. Intersting that of course at the...

Think its a fairly key point. A rent holiday would be agreed by both sides. Puts the clubs action in a very different light. It also ties in to the loan. CCC can't claim they had to bail ACL out to protect their investment as SISU were refusing to pay rent if it was an agreed course of action...

Quite an interesting read: http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/Opinion-Burton-Albion-s-sale-Nasser-El-Khayati/story-28648020-detail/story.html Says he's not performed well since Hasslebank left and he's gone to QPR to link back up with him.

Seems what SISU are claiming is that it was a rent holiday that ACL were happy with as it would drive down the value which they wanted to do in order to get the loan off Yorkshire Bank cheap. There was a few points today where the SISU chap was talking about how the language from the council...

Freddie Eastwood and Stephen Elliot. Our prayers have been answered!

Goalscorers are hard to find at the best of times. Can't imagine there's a lot sat around unable to get a club. And if there are any are they match fit and ready to go?

Mowbray's interview is clearly talking about loans as he goes into detail about having to leave players out every week due to the number of loans we have.

How do we end up with idiot after idiot in charge. I was quite optimistic when Anderson came in but after that load of drivel he came out with in the Telegraph yesterday and this today he's already heading towards Fisher status, or even worse Orange Ken. Ridiculous to have your manager saying...

Not sure how that's going to work. Won't any club considering loaning a player be wanting to know how often they are likley to play if 3 loanees have to miss out every game.

Think you're missing my point. What I'm saying is you can't simply say the rent has gone from £1.2m to £200K as you're not comparing like with like. What we got for £1.2m is nothing like what we are getting for £200K so its not a case of simply saying the rent has been reduced.

Matchday costs is a bit of a misleading term I guess. Point I was making is there's things that were included when we paid £1.2m that have now moved to matchday costs and are paid on top of the rent.

But think of what we are actually getting. For a start its £200K plus matchday costs which equates to around £450K. The details of F&B haven't been released. Is it a % of revenue or profit? Is it a % of everything or a % of what ACL recieves from IEC? All we get is the ground for a few hours on...

The West Ham deal isn't particularly straightforward as they pay out but then get things you would normally expect them to be paying for like stewards, ticketing, undersoil heating and all sorts of random things. The crucial thing for them will be to avoid relegation. If they go down they may...

We were paying £1.2m for which we got use of the ground on matchdays, offices and the club shop & ticket office. We recieved no revenues generated by our being at the ground or any benefit from any other events held there. Bournemouth rent Dean Court. Don't they pay £15K a month or something...

Yes, as in the football club. I'm sure there's technicalilites of exactly which branch of SISU is doing certain things but I find most of the time there's little point making the distinction between them and as they are our owners and dealing with matters relating to the stadium we play in it...

How unusual to have new users appear when we're in court :facepalm: