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Not really, any enquiries about anything to do with the deal are met with 'confidential'. If you look at that CT piece that's not a quote so where have CT sourced that information from, its certainly not been made public by CCC. And of course if that £1m was not, as some guessed, a payment for...

Not for a second but what I can imagine is someone in Wasps PR machine (you know, the one they say doesn't exist) thinking it might not look good if Wasps buy the Ricoh on the cheap, causing CCC and Higgs to lose millions, while the football club is playing in Northampton and there's 10,000...

Isn't that CT piece about the accounts before they took over ACL? How does that show they paid £1m off the loan or is it CT guesswork? Is there anything from the council that actually confirms the change of terms to the loan and any down payment?

About £40 in petrol £3 to park cost of the ticket if it's winter I might even stretch to a cuppa don't spend anymore on F&B, stop off at the parents on the way there and back and its free!

Neither of those were people as was referring to as intelligent and having common sense :D

You can tell us Houch, was it deliberate? To be honest that would never have crossed my mind. There's a chap down here that's opened restaurants called Relentless and J's Italian, both with practically identical logos to the more famous versions. He's had legal action taken against him and has...

I would bet my house on that being true. I spent some time a couple of weeks ago going back over old posts and comments from ACL, CCC and Higgs, wish I'd taken a note now as they'd be good to post in this thread. Knowing what we now know you can easily reinterpret a lot of the comments that...

I think they would probably say they've already made their high risk investment in us and aren't making the same mistake again! The problem is they could spend that £4m and it could get us promoted, although as you say not guaranteed. The problem is how do you recoup? We have evidence from past...

So is it the old Fisher talks shit except when him telling the truth would be useful to support a standpoint? Fisher said we were never coming back - no one believed him; Fisher said we weren't interested in the Ricoh - no one believed him. Now we're being told CCC sold to Wasps because of a...

Corrected that for you. Still amazes me that the vast majority of our fan base are not in the slightest bit bothered about the council's role in this. Just in what you've quoted there we can some more outright lies yet its all OK because they got one over on SISU.

I wasn't thinking you did. Just shows all those City fans who mysteriously signed up right after Wasps purchased ACL might not be telling the whole truth when they keep insisting the free tickets aren't being dished out left right and centre anymore.

That can't possibly be true, the free tickets were only for the first three games :thinking about:

And of course whoever was in charge of the project ballsed it up so we couldn't have a pre-season money making friendly to open the ground and had to have a reduced capacity for the first game which would have more than likely otherwise been a sell out.

But as a JR deals with the situation at a single point in time isn't there pretty much unlimited scope for them to mount new JRs as and when the current one gets struck down?

State aid seems a bit arbitrary to me. CCC claimed we couldn't own 50% of the freehold, which was the original plan, as it would constitute state aid. Yet loaning ACL millions to purchase a lease on that freehold is not state aid. Where does that line get drawn. Strikes me that some of it is a...

I think the problem is anything good they do is ignored. How far would they have to go to make an impact on ticket sales? Its unrealistic to expect 'name' signings given the level we play at. Mowbray was certainly a higher calibre, and I would assume more expensive, manager than I was expecting...

If you're going to use last season as a reference point then things are massively on the up, what will we be looking at, something like a 400% increase in average attendance. We have the 7th highest average attendance in L1, 5th highest if you only count Ricoh games.

There was a spin a disc in the lower precinct as well, they moved to a much smaller place over near the market later. There used to be loads of record shops, there was the one opposite M&S that later became a second HMV, can't remember what it was called, the HMV by the Cinema, Smiths had their...

What you're suggesting is to get success SISU put in a seven figure amount that they are highly unlikely to get a return on. Just highlights the problem we have with lack of access to revenues.

The downside to modern day vinyl collecting is its mostly online. Stick something on ebay and whoever pays the most gets it. Gone are the days of looking through racks in second hand stores to try and find the missing piece of your collection.