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What would you say the difference was in Turkey? Easier league for strikers or a slightly different 433 setup?

Well it would be two shit seasons. People aren’t going to hang about and wait, they’ll just not go and come back when it’s better. Obsessive like us may justify things with “transition years” and the like but most people just want an enjoyable Saturday.

This is a fair point.

Just trying to think like Doug here (*cough* ciddy ciddy), if he’s expecting a big rebuild then maybe wants no loans again next season.

I just don’t think a kid of his first loan is going to be the difference.

Its just some government funding for a UK startup

Did a bad one make any difference last year? I think that ship has sailed and this is just cope from fans who want a better product on the pitch.

Going to support Doug here actually. Lampard was hired on the understanding he could get more from what we’ve got and so far he hasn’t. Any loan unless it’s followed up with a season long isn’t going to be much use and isn’t going to be the difference between us going down or staying up. Sheaf...

agreed. And if we did finish top 8, I’d imagine most fans would be happy. Team go up: fans happy. Team go down: fans not happy. It really is that simple.

Ita not hyperbolic. It’s a fact. We would have gone backwards. Maybe that’s reasonable. Maybe it’s understandable. But if you’re wondering why the people who pay to see the team progress aren’t happy that’s your answer.

Do you think we’ll finish 9th or higher this season?

We’re using all the data available so far yes.

Then you have to drop Sakamoto and EMC is the issue. And our midfield three isn’t great at picking up the creative slack.

This is my only concern with this stat. Playing in a two lets you pull wide similar to playing in a three where his main role is to get into scoring positions. Not sure we’ve got the data here to say he works as a lone striker. Though he did play there in Turkey I think.

So we accept its regression now, just arguing over how long it’s been happening. I doubt we’ll finish 9th this season.

Yes. That would be the case if we’ve got lower each season.

In terms of league position we’ve got worse every season.

How many were on his own rather than as a two out of interest?

Apparently religion started in Egypt because the Nile was so unpredictable that priests could promise to control/predict it and got followers. It’s nice to see we’ve come full circle.

All of it is “I didn’t get free shit” and flows from there.