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I remember something like that. Bidwell and Thomas had a spat at one point, that might have been training though.

Move on, great player for us, gave everything all of the time. Has now moved on to another club.

It might just be a coincidence but our results from one player are play off level (albeit some of the games counted are cup games) whereas the other they're 17th place nailed on. Why is our record with Binks in the side so poor? Kitching: 23/24 29 starts 14 wins 9 draws 6 losses 8 clean...

Anyway, how does this work:

Not like you to jump in despite huge ignorance Nick but you might want to look at the foundation of the Labour party and its links with the trade unions

We have not addressed it at all, we have outsourced it.

We'll get a point at Leeds

As much as saddle gets some decent goss, he hasn't half prone to sensationalism and adding his own spin to things. He was exactly the same 12 months ago, remember all the "all the players think the new signings are shit" nonsense he was coming out with.

What on earth are you talking about? There is no game where we have not been competitive.

Nor tactically, the only role I'd trust him in is a central striker to be quite honest.

For the second goal Torp has got to go and face him up, you don't let a player run into the penalty area. It's fucking basic.

Some of the vitriol shown to players on here is embarrassing at times. He's not been great so far but he has been involved which is positive, the expectation seems to be weighing on him a bit. We've been here more than once now with writing players off, we'll add EMC to the SBT "he's shit" hall...

Using the Fbref data: I am assuming out xGD/90 is 3.8/6 = 0.633 - extrapolate over the season is an xGD of 29 - the only teams that got higher than that last season were Leicester, Leeds and Southampton.

Thanks for that input [emoji1782]

Now it's not the heat of the moment, I'd have sat it's stay. It would be silly to sack him off the back of a few poor results. He also shouldn't be a victim of expectations set on his behalf by others.

TBF to him he said he accepted full responsibility as well

That's it I'd say, Bidwell possibly

He sounded quite hoarse Get all your leaders on the pitch, starting with Kitching in for Binks

Dovin 6 given his alleged passing range he only really passes to to the centre backs MVE 7 was one of the only players who showed anything Thomas 6 Binks 6 Bidwell 6 Eccles 6.5 some nice bits of play, BTA should have done better with his through ball Allen 4 I have always liked him as a player...

Yeah he definitely deserves the respect but it's starting to feel like he's reached his ceiling with us. Given the relatively low turnover of players in the summer we've basically continued with the poor form from the end of last season.