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Basing your entire political worldview on “whatever will annoy 50% of the population” is deeply weird.

It is an unproven and unevidenced theory that involves a conspiracy between the club and the police to stop people moving. It is a dictionary definition conspiracy theory.

Yeah that I can agree with. That probably was SAG.

How? It’s this sort of weird conspiracy theory stuff that stopped people moving over. It’s baseless nonsense that doesn’t make any sense. The club have no way of stopping people and the police aren’t going to recommend something that’s only safe is a given PR strategy is followed.

This sounds like nonsense TBH. If you don’t want your loudest fans there why put safe standing which attracts those fans?

Reckon this is a four laughing emoji response required here. Maybe five, it’s been a while since I read the Oxford debating society rules.

There were ongoing riots Rob. That was the difference. What was dripping fed was facts that disproved the cause of those riots. You’re certainly right that no one believed it though, because we’ve got a populace primed to only believe social media grifters and not authoritative sources.

If they were ST holders they had the chance to move before any families. I think the club handled comma poorly TBH as well. The right thing to so would have been to communicate directly with B15/16 ST holders and others (they’ve got the data) and encourage them to move en masse.

Well first time round he had his men in charge of the UK so I assume you’ve got a raft of things he did then that helped us? He didnt seem to really understand the UK as this was his take on a trade deal: A trade deal which never happened.

Not been on Twitter the last month I take it? Musk is his right hand man. Trumps comments have mostly been restricted to our policy in the North Sea https://www.carbonbrief.org/daily-brief/trump-demands-end-to-north-sea-windmills-in-swipe-at-uk-energy-policy/ And that’s good or bad.

It’s fascinating how people defend their priors isn’t it? Everything points to the facts being this kid was British born and fucked up and obsessed with violence (which there’s no intervention for) yet half this thread are coming away with the idea he was an immigrant Muslim terrorist who was...

I agree it’s mental, but so are half of American laws.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_information_voter

So to be clear, he wasn’t on an MI5 watch list, wasn’t an immigrant, we have no evidence he was Muslim. Yet all the misinformation was apparently from “the authorities” and the media that they control? Have I got that right?

Not sure that proves anything. I had the anarchists cook book and CIA training manuals when I was a teenager despite being neither an anarchist nor a CIA operative.

Was he Muslim in the end?

No I didn’t.

There’s no way you can create a banger chant around either Jeffrey or Schlupp and on that basis I’m out.

Well quite. The problem here is lone wolf attackers radicalising themselves on YouTube on their toilet are very hard to spot. And 99% of people who sound like nutters aren’t nutters they’ve just spent too long on social media *cough* half this forum *cough*. Pursue, the part of the CONTEST...

It’s literally a voluntary course. Thats what Prevent is. Im so bored of repeating myself.