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You said ‘when the genocide begun’. In your mind, when did Israel’s actions become genocide? Clearly it was between October and December 2023 because the you rationalised the support of Palestinians of Hamas’ ‘vile terrorist actions’ (your words) in October because ‘genocide had begun’. If you...

This is genocidal intent but not Hamas’ actions? October 7th 2023, the Kibbutz communities were targeted and the supernova dance festival. Women were raped and civilians abducted and Hamas officials justified and initiated these actions. By your own words, either both Hamas and the IDF are...

It’s not a straw man, you throw around the word genocide freely. The simple question is that at what point did it move from war to genocide? You have given the game away earlier in the discussion when you said ‘after the genocide begun’ in response to polling published (not condicted) in...

This is childish. I acknowledge that there is extreme difficulty in waging war against an entity like Hamas in densely populated areas. As a starting point, Israel’s retaliation against a ‘vile terrorist act’ was justified to oust Hamas and retrieve the hostages. I’m curious whether you think...

Then why do you struggle to apply the same definition to Hamas actions. More specifically, at what point does war become genocide? You said earlier ‘after the genocide begun’. Which was when? The moment Israel entered Gaza or was there a specific event where the line was crossed?

You have to understand Hamas to understand Israel’s response. Frankly, Hamas is a genocidal death cult who do not want to coexist with Israel and changing its charter shouldn’t kid anyone. With that in mind, how does Israel conduct war with an entity that wants to Palestine to be ‘free from the...

The population of Gaza is 2m, so what’s your point? Yep but not in the way you think. So Hamas militants invade Israel, rejoice in specifically killing Jews and that is not genocidal? Using the definitions you and others rely on for your own purposes, scale isn’t actually important. It’s the...

Repeating yourself doesn’t make it right. If Hamas actions weren’t with the “intention of destroying all or a substantial part of, a group”, what was its intention?

From my POV, the pot is calling the kettle black. With respect, I think my views are more in line with majority opinion than yourself.

Why is a terrorist attack and not genocide? Hamas literally put their war crimes on social media and there were multiple examples of people celebrating that they killed Jews. They didn’t care if their victims were Arab Israelis because there is no distinction for Hamas between Jew and Israeli...

That’s an insightful remark because you expose what many people of on the ‘Pro-Pal’ side don’t actually believe in a two solution because the view is that all of the land is occupied. Again, you see this regularly at demos where you see people wearing necklaces, hoodies, T-shirts that depicts...

‘Most of you’ were wrong…

Can we agree that Hamas’ actions on October 7th were genocidal? No one is saying that. The impact, however, clearly felt by Jewish people the most. Ironically, the linked you shared demonstrates how Arab Israelis and the Druze are well integrated in Israeli society. I don’t think Gaza or the...

With respect, anyone who calls Israel’s war ‘genocidal’ but not Hamas’ attack on October 7th 2023 lacks moral clarity or is playing with definitions.

Tel Aviv is a city whose population is 90% Jewish. That accusation of anti-semitism is childish.

Hang on, Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. It’s not a terrorist attack at all. It was actual genocide. They deliberately targeted non-combatants and civilian areas away from military targets. The IDF weren’t embedded in the Kibbutz or supernova festival.

This includes the West Bank who were more supportive of Hamas’ incursion than in Gaza… The polling was published in Dec 2023 so was conducted shortly after the events.

Was October 7th 2023 genocide?

Polling is unreliable in the West Bank and Gaza, but the data we have suggests there was widespread support for Hamas’ actions on October 7th 2023. 72% polled supported kicking this conflict off. With neighbours like that, the prospects of a peaceful two-state solution is little to none...

There were mass protests against Israel on October 8th 2023 before there was a military response. People should think about that. No, I don’t. Hamas deliberately embeds itself in civilian infrastructure. It’s not a conventional war (lik Ukraine-Russia) where there is a clear demarcation...