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Indeed and a big deal was made of that at the time. Now they are talking about something different. I suspect the angle that will be played by the EU is that Scotland is already in the EU and have voted to stay therefore if they wish to do so they are already a member and can stay on the same...

Problem last time was the only option was AV and neither side really engaged in any decent campaigning. Whole thing passed by unnoticed by most.

I'm increasingly of that opinion. The leave campaign have admitted they have no plan moving forward saying it is the responsibility of the PM. However Cameron isn't going to do it and hasn't, as he promised all throughout the campaign, started the leave process immediately upon a leave result...

They didn't say they didn't want them, they said they would have to follow the same procedure as everyone else.

Who the EU? I guess you could look at it that way. They said if Scotland left the UK they would not be able to join the EU without going through the usual process. What they are now saying is that Scotland hasn't voted to leave the EU and therefore should not be forced to do so. Suspect we'll...

But how would you account for that? Voting is anonymous, you couldn't somehow remove Scottish votes. You'd have to have another vote.

The Alton Towers one was pretty easy to see what had happened but this one looks like its come off the tracks and crashed to the ground. How does that happen? Wouldn't there be some redundancy to prevent that?

You also have to factor in that membership has shot up since Corbyn became leader, they would all get a vote this time round. And then you'd have people who aren't currently members joining up to vote for him. Can't see a leadership election being anything but a disaster for Labour.

That's exactly what is needed. The FPTP system just does not work for our multi party system. Too many people don't vote as they feel it is pointless or vote tactically. They use FPTP in the US but that really is a 2 party election so not such a big problem. They used it in Canada but are...

I'm not sure that moving more towards the centre would work again. When Blair did it they managed to present it as a new way forward for Labour, that won't work again. You already see phrases like Red Tories being thrown around. It would be a big gamble. Lib Dems moved that way and got wiped out...

Its a very interesting situation. I have no doubt that should Corbyn stand again he would leave. If the PLP deny the rank and file the opportunity to vote for their preferred candidate then it sends a very clear message that the PLP couldn't care less about the wishes of the party members. Why...

They're changing their tune now. Reports are coming out that they may be prepared to offer a fast track to Scotland and NI if they hold independence referendums as they didn't vote to leave the EU.

But if you were the leader of the SNP, a party that has a long history of wanting independence, what would you do? Your country has voted resoundingly to stay in the EU. The EU are making noises about making an exception to the usual process should Scotland and / or NI wish to join. You could...

Haven't seen a breakdown like that, where is it from? The only ones I've seen have been around median age Problem is younger voters have been conditioned not to vote as they feel their vote doesn't count under our usual electoral system and that none of the major parties represent their views...

Not sure this Labour coup is going to have the intended effect.

Take your time says Townsend with 30 seconds left :facepalm:

How did he miss that? Keogh was nowhere near him.

Wheels are coming off here for Ireland. They need to clam themselves down.

This is why we need to act quickly, that's not the same as saying we need to rush as we need to get it right. But time is of the essence, the longer the period of instability continues the more stories like this we will see and the longer it will take to recover and start growing as a non-EU...

Unfortunately they aren't the only country in the EU. And if you actually look at what was said "It shouldn't take forever, that's right, but I would not fight for a short timeframe" it doesn't indicate to me that Germany are happy to wait around indefinitely with no timescale given for us to...